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Worker almost killed by Capitalist

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Rebellious twit, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. Rebellious twit

    Rebellious twitExperienced Member Experienced member


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    taken from libcom.org
    newsreport on polish:
    fakty.tvn24.pl/bez-litosci,354222.html
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  2. marsha

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    "illicit" labor is dangerous in many aspects, there is no insurance if an accident happens, no workers rights to call upon, no responsibility for whats left of unemployment benefits or social security systems like the standard pension plans in europe, since decades only "discussed" here in the states.
    "moonshining" also endangers the average "honest" workers with wage dumping, loss of rights and security even further than in "legal" capitalism: how to insist on standard wage, proper equipment and healthy working hours, if the boss can hire some poor soul to sweat longer for less and so even more profit of his master.
    hired farmhands or building site workers are often "illegal" immigrants, working for a fractional amount of the usual standards, it's easy to get rid of the unruly ones, their bosses just report them to the immigration authorities and the cops.
    and maybe, in extreme cases... it's a shitty, dangerous business!
     
  3. Rebellious twit

    Rebellious twitExperienced Member Experienced member


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    it always has been, union support is nessasarcy!
     
  4. Spike one of many

    Spike one of manyExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I'm not so sure about that, at least in the UK employers can get fined up to 10000 pounds per illegal worker.
     
  5. Rebellious twit

    Rebellious twitExperienced Member Experienced member


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    yeah,i think the employers doens't give a shit, they just want the bloody profit...
     
  6. marsha

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    definitely yes, but you have to find comrades and especially functionaries who not only oppose todays trivial racism, but also manage the balance between the corruption of workers rights via moonshining and the solidarity with the victims of criminal profits - because both aspects are represented by "damian" and his colleagues.
    even in the IWA/AIT and the FORA we had desperate discussions about how to deal with so called traitors and even labeled criminals putting their personal situation and interest above the interest of the workers struggle, being potentially blacklegs and finks undermining direct action like production sabotage or strikes, not to mention again the struggle for fairer wages and job security in capitalism.
    it's difficult to find a position, maybe less in cases of open exploitation of work immigrants or an individual case ending up like the above bloodbath.
    and it's not only the employers who try to gain the upper hand:
    according to my IWA infos the fine is up to 30 000 euros in the jurisdiction of the EU and in extreme cases the punishment includes even jail, plus the compensation of tax dodging.
    there were big scandals when the "new" inner city of london was realised during the 90's.
    the same goes for the post-wall berlin in germany, where it's assumed, that up to 70 percent of the building work was done by firms and especially sub-contractors using moonshiners or "contract workers", mostly from the former communist states in eastern europe.
    the public scandal about was completely superficial and lasted only for the blink of an eye, the very moment where it became clear that even federal administrations had interfered illegaly in the process of procurement in favor of shadow business and known subcontractors of known dubious reputation, just and only to keep in with the date for the official opening and besides that:
    the financial efford as low as possible, even if it means to go off the written law...
    and if i remember it right, the end of the public inquiry was a general amnesty.
    in individual cases worldwide:
    how much, do you think, is the professional fee for a cop or the protocolling immingration official - moonshining for a wellknown and well established local employer?
    the brits went famous with the arrest and deportation of caught illegals in one single day, they even admitted the deficit on officers speaking foreign languages, so in both sides interest...
    around here where i live mexican "hands" are only briefly questioned by officers unable to speak spanish. this is so wellknown and accepted, quite an encouragement for the average building company trying to keep a little extra...
     
  7. GratianHarris

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    Americans' increased involvement in capital markets has affected other aspects of their lives: notably, their retirement planning, job satisfaction, and productivity in the workplace. The growth of investment has rewarded, and appears to have thus encouraged, an orientation toward the future—the investor's own and his family's.
     
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