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What are your thoughts about PETA?

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Grindwar, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Grindwar

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    Just wondering what your thoughts about peta are. Personally im against them
     

  2. Ivanovich

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    I try to ignore them. They are the Sex Pistols of the AR movement. Sure there's another thread on this.
     
  3. Vegetarian Barbarian

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    PETA makes more meat eaters out of people than not.
     
  4. THEBLACKNOVA

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    Does any one know if any animal rights organization has come out against the use of animals in police actions against people???

    Im thinking police dogs and horses used against people when people are protesting the state?
     
  5. Sick Boy 77

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    The people of PETA are a bunch of dumbasses. They use the stupidest methods to get their message across. Why the fuck are you going to throw tofu pies and red paint at people? Is that going to stop them from wearing animal skins or is that just going to piss them off? They don't really try to educate people about what is happening to animals. All they do is hold signs up and bitch about things. Where's the fact spreading? They aren't getting their message across. All they are doing is being annoying. They make more money for themselves then use it to help animals too. They give vegetarians and vegans a bad name. FUCK PETA!
     
  6. Incalight

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    They suck, they exploit humans in trying to get their message across. That don't make sense to me, and I wouldn't take them seriously on that fact alone.

    I've seen members say it's okay for 'them' to indulge in pharmaceuticals that have been tested on animals because they give out PETA leaflets, but it's not okay for meat eaters and so on to use those medicines. WTF?

    They have very dodgy ethics.
     
  7. VeganShteve

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    I have serious suspicions that PETA have been set up to discredit the animal rights movement. They can't seriously come out with all the shit they do and be sincere. In PR/astroturfing terms, it would be quite easy for a few people to orchestrate something like that.
     
  8. Wuddii

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    many peta members dont understand how to successfully participate in civil disobedience. Instead of doing things that will inform the public and get their point across, they do stupid little shit that just pisses people off. I personally am very pro animal rights but i hate peta
     
  9. Bakica

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    The point is, they don't even won't to.
     
  10. XxInGrindWeCrustxX

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    The thing that pisses me off about them throwing paint at people and ruining their animal clothing is that they basically wasted that animal. That animal died and suffered for nothing. At least when you where a pair of Doc Martens they last practically forever, so you are making the most out of the death of the animal. With these PETA fuckers, they just let an animal die in vain because they want to appear as "radical protesters". Fucking Idiots. :@
     
  11. deadsmart

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    Myself and anyone I know that are serious vegans/vegetarians seem to dislike Peta. The only people I have ever known that actually supported Peta seemed to be into the veggie lifestyle in a more "trendy" way and not a serious way.
     
  12. mindofmyown

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    I think what PETA is doing is a good thing. They may not always do things in the best fashion, but they do get results on some things, and more often then not they expose things to people that they would have never know about otherwise. It is up to us all to speak out and do what we can - I think they are playing an important role in the knowledge transfer. Why dislike and organization that is doing something quite noble? Just because a bunch of them members may be doing it for the attention and are hypocrites, it does not make PETA in general a bad thing. my 2 cents.
     
  13. pUnK@55

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    People Eating Tasty Animals
     
  14. ungovernable

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    Male PETA Employees Make Women have Sex with Vegetables “For the Animals”

    See here for the pictures:
    http://veganfeministnetwork.com/sex-wit ... e-animals/


    If you recall, PETA launched a pornography site a couple of years ago, interweaving graphic scenes of violence with sexualized images of women. Totally healthy and coherent, right? Fortunately, they removed the images of women, and the porn site is nothing more than short video clips of factory farms. Still, people come from titillating images of sexually objectified women, and they are exposed to graphic violence. The disturbing connection between sex and violence is left in tact.

    Either way, PETA porn is back under a new project they call “Veggie Love Casting Session.” In my opinion, this is hands down the most obscene material to ever be produced by PETA with the well-intentioned donations of people who genuinely care about animal suffering.

    A bright-eyed white woman simulating oral sex on a cucumber. Meant to resemble an internet porn advertisement. Reads: "Can't get enough veggies? Join now!!! All access starting at $16/year."Become a PETA member for more porn? Or to help Nonhuman Animals?

    On the website, various clips of women performing sex acts on vegetables are featured. In the commercial, women are paraded in front of the camera and inspected for their audience like slaves on the auction block, like human meat ready for consumption. The project is led by men, and you hear the men in the background calling the shots, directing the women to “show us how much they like” their assigned vegetable, then laughing at her humiliation at the end of her session. Photos of the women are listed at the bottom of the page where viewers can rate them with a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down,” objectifying them blatantly.

    Image depicts two women in bikinis performing oral sex on a carrot. From PETA's Veggie Love campaign.Twin sister incestuously advocating Nonhuman Animal rights for the pleasure of PETA’s male directors and viewers.

    PETA even manages to mimic the disgusting prevalence of racism in pornography. The only African American woman featured is shown animalized, crawling across the couch to some broccoli where she devours it with no hands.

    An African American woman in a bikini and high heels crawling across a couch towards broccoli.



    Many would see this and argue that these women are doing this “by choice” and they’re “enjoying it.” To some extent, that’s probably true. But, that argument misses the point. Consider what shapes those choices: an environment that sees women as sex objects and resources for male enjoyment. Women are under immense pressure to perform the gender roles they have been assigned. Under patriarchy, women are socialized to be servants to men. Women are groomed as little girls, taught that providing sex and pleasure for men is both expected and required of them. Women are given so few opportunities in this world to achieve and succeed based on their skills, knowledge, and other dignifying qualities, sex work is one of the only options available to them. It’s an option that’s not even on the table for men. Pornography and other forms of sexual exploitation, by the way, tend to target especially vulnerable women, like those from low income backgrounds or abusive families, those with little occupational or educational opportunities, and those who are suffering from addictions. Pornography hurts all women, but it particularly hurts at-risk women.

    A white woman in a bikini and high heels spanking herself with a stalk of celery.Woman spanking herself with celery so male viewers can learn about speciesism.

    When visitors are finished viewing videos of women performing sex acts on vegetables, videos of Nonhuman Animals being beaten and killed pop up . . . because nothing is sexier than exploited women juxtaposed with dying animals. Really, though, that’s what sexuality has become: Subjugating and hurting the vulnerable for the pleasure of the privileged. Seeing someone humiliated and suffering for our enjoyment has become sexy.

    A woman (possibly of color) in a bikini and high heels leaning against a couch on the floor. Her head is back and her back is arched. She is rubbing herself with tomatoes.Woman simulating sex with tomatoes to educate others about veganism

    PETA is sexualizing the degradation and humiliation of women. PETA is sexualizing the exploitation of vulnerable people. PETA is sexualizing violence against women. PETA is sexualizing oppression.

    A white woman stuffing radishes into her mouth with painfully stretched cheeks.A woman performing humiliating sex acts on vegetables.

    The research is overwhelmingly clear: Pornography leads to the degradation of women, the objectification of women, the dehumanization of women, and violence against women. It leads women to internalize this devalution, and women begin to objectify themselves. It disempowers women, it leaves women susceptible to domestic violence, it feeds rape culture. For more information on how pornography hurts women, check out The Price of Pleasure (be warned, it is extremely triggering and graphic). This video can be found online to view for free if you do a little searching.

    A white woman deep-throating a cucumber.Your PETA donations at work exploiting women.

    I argue that sexist advocacy is a despicable insult to our serious social justice movement. PETA kills animals and symbolically kills women. Please, for the love of anything good in this world, never donate to PETA again, and don’t let your friends and family donate either. You don’t need PETA to make real change for Nonhuman Animals: Promote veganism peacefully, support trap-neuter-release, support vegan animal sanctuaries, support your local shelter, adopt, fight oppression of all kinds. RESPECT EACH OTHER in our fight to end speciesism.
     
  15. Some Guy

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    That PETA porn is kind of messed up. While I’d imagine that some people are into those kind of sexual practices or pornography (and that’s fine), using pornography to raise awareness to completely non-related cause is very problematic for a few reasons. This is probably just going to draw the wrong kind of attention from the idiot macho tough-guy crowd, it may give the younger and more impressionable teen females weird ideas about sexuality and animal rights, and it will give the somewhat more intelligent public more reasons to laugh at and discredit PETA (and most people are stupid enough to think that PETA represents all vegans/vegetarians, and most people love to preserve the status quo and usually look for reasons to discredit anyone who deviates from it, such as vegans, with oversimplified points about how ridiculous PETA are).

    As for my general stance on PETA, I find them hit or miss. When they stick to factual information (about factory farming and whatnot), then they’re fine. And because they are the biggest and most accessible animal rights group, they probably get their information out to more people than other organizations can. But a lot of their campaigns are usually pretty questionable (for similar reasons I mentioned above). As such, they probably occasionally make vegans look pretty crazy in the eyes of the public (who generally already have anti-vegan sentiments). Again, when they stick to factual information, they’re fine. But honestly, there are so many equally good, if not better, other organizations and groups who provide the exact same information (such as Action for Animals), that you’re better off just supporting the smaller organizations who aren’t multi-millionaires and do questionable things.

    I’ve occasionally distributed PETA literature when my band plays shows (in which I always set up a table full of literature, on a variety of issues). All the PETA literature I’ve ever acquired though was from two friends of mine who acquired it many years prior and no longer had any use for it. What I always do is either cut off the bottom part of the paper where it shows the PETA name, or I cover over it with a black marker (to completely remove PETA from the info, or make it clear that I don’t support it), to just stick with the facts.
     
  16. Imjustassickasyoubelieve

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  18. Jo Spanner

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    PETA is a fucking liability. If I had my tin foil hat on I'd say they were some kind of government op.
     
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