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Superior/Inferior race

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Anarcho-Communist, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. punkmar77

    punkmar77Administrator Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    I beg to differ on your defenition of Aryan...Jack, Aryan: 1. of or pertaining to a member of an Indo-European or Indo-Iranian-speaking people that invaded southwestern Asia and northwestern India in the second millinium B.C. from the Sanskrit word arya....The fairy tale of the White races calling themselves Aryan can be traced to the late 1800's to Eugenics advocates who preached racial purity. Yet the races and nationality's that you site are not Aryans just because a handful of them decided that they were "a lost tribe". Modern day Iranians are the closest thing to an Aryan race. In my humble opinion sir.....
     
  2. dwtcos

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    Well to be brutally honest I've never actually come into contact with any R.A.S.H advocates but yes I believe they have simillar views.
     
  3. disfuck

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    i might have read this shit wrong so dont take it differantly , i was talkin bout anarcho commie , ya fell me
     
  4. Jack

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    I'm talking about what he and nazis call Aryans, though some Nazis do consider Iranians to be a Germanic/Aryan people (Nobody really gives a shit about the "Aryan" name, since that's really only Azerbaijs, Iranians, and 2 other ethnicities I can't remember.) I'm talking about it strictly in the Aryan=uber white people sense. I'm aware that Iran=Land of The Aryans, but the OP was talking in the sense of Aryan=Germanic.

    An interesting note on how the Nazis explained other empires outside of Europe like Great Zimbabwe, Ghana, Mali, and the Ottomans. They claimed they had Aryan blood, but then lost it, so thus lost power. :lmao:
     
  5. Anom

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    ...and that is called SPECIECISM. It is what makes humans think it´s ok to eat and in other ways exploit other beings.
     
  6. Jack

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    You're stupid, humans are superior to animals, we're smarter, stronger, able to comprehend more things etc.

    -a vegan.
     
  7. Rabbit

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    Smarter maybe. Stronger? Not even close. For every physical attribute there are dozens of animals that outdo humans. Intellect is the only place that humans really beat animals.
     
  8. Anom

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    Definately not stronger than lots of animals, and smarter?! How are we smarter? Because we can comunicate with each other? So does other animals. Because we can build things? Have money? Let some stupid basterd rule us? Because we make things, or use them, that destroys the entire planet? Because we kill and use other animals? Think we in that case are back to racism, and back to the earlier: what makes a race superior to another?
     
  9. Carcass

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    Now this thread has gone to an interesting place. Someone can chime in if s/he disagrees, but it seems like we have consensus that the capacity of some humans to dominate other humans is not an indicator of the former's superiority. But near as I can tell, humans are only "superior" to non-humans in the same way wealthy white people are "superior" to poor people of color: the former wields destructive technology to dominate the other.

    So what does "superiority" mean if not the capacity to dominate? You say that it's our intelligence, strength (contested) and ability to comprehend more things (not sure what you mean by that). But these don't sound like superior characteristics to me, they just sound like the adaptations that are suited to our lifestyle. Couldn't we just as easily say that what makes one species superior to another is its capacity to hear through its feet, thereby making elephants superior to humans? Or what about a cheetah's ability to run 70 miles per hour? Sounds pretty superior to me.
     
  10. Anom

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    So true! I am so not superior to that! And, when it's cold out, I need clothes to not freeze to death. Very much not superior.
     
  11. dwtcos

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    I totally agree with Carcass. After all, its not really "survival of he fittest" its "survival of the fit enough" :D
     
  12. Jack

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    Okay, and horses can't survive without a leg, you're using semantics to try to "prove" me wrong.

    Could an animal invent fucking anything? No, of course not, there's how we're fucking superior. Don't whine about it and compare calling a dog inferior to me to calling a race inferior to me, race doesn't affect intelligence.
     
  13. Anom

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    Don't wine about it?! Who the fuck is wineing here, but you perhaps? I really don't need to do shit to "prove" you wrong, you'r reactions here kinda shows you know it's true. Inteligence can be many different things you know, not only IQ (based on mathematical and logical thinking) counts as inteligence. And if that kind of inteligence is what makes you superior to a nonhuman animal, does that make you superior to humans less inteligent than yourself as well?
    What the fuck have you, personally, invented btw?
     
  14. dwtcos

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    You never cease to amaze me.
    You cannot measure a nonhuman being based on human traits. Thats fucking stupid. An alligator does not need to take a calculus course and a flying squirrel does not need to cure polio and yet somehow both those species have been around a fuck of a lot longer then us. Do you know why? Because there FIT ENOUGH for there environment.
     
  15. Jack

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    Translation: I have nothing useful or enlightening to say.

    Of course, or else I would have said IQ instead of intelligence. But with that, intelligence IS based on logical thinking, because if you think illogically, you're an idiot. It doesn't matter if that logical thought is done in mathematics or carpentry, as long as it is logical than it is useful.

    Yes, I am superior to humans who aren't logical, because they provide little to society. I'm superior to someone who is mentally retarded, because they have few basic logical thoughts (don't get into semantics on this or ask me LOLOLL HOW DU U NO?!?!?!?!). I am superior to stupid people (once again, before someone gets all pissy, there are plenty of people who aren't academic, but that doesn't mean they aren't smart in other respects), because stupid people can't handle (relatively) simple tasks. Therefore I am intellectually superior to them. Because animals are not capable of advancing themselves, and animal society does not evolve or have its own standards, it is always consistant and never capable of advanced development.
     
  16. oneleggedpunk

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    The British Isles were Celtic, we have been invaded on many occasions by Angles, Saxons, Vikings(costal areas), Romans etc. What i'm saying is your statement is wrong.
     
  17. Bananaman

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    Well, we have gone to the basic ecology territory. In broad terms there are two types of animals, one group that relay on a very large number of offspring to prolong their species, usually called the R type. And there are those that are the C type, they produce a small number of offspring but try to give their offspring every competitive advantage they can...

    Humans would be the extreme of the C group. But does that mean that we are superior to other animals? In terms of success as a species there are those that have a far larger population, like rats. There are also the Tardigrades that can survive considerable time in outer space unaided...

    So basically what Jack is saying is ability to manipulate your surroundings equals superiority. I disagree.
     
  18. PsychoHyena

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    Nope, just an anti-social Mysanthrope.

    But seriously? One cannot honestly think one race to be better then another. What could be your possible reasoning for this? Have you not seen those Nightmarish scenes in the history books of dead humans piled up like rotting meat for the sake of 'Racial Superiority'. Have you not seen the beaten bloated body of Emmett Till? The numerous other photographs of Lynch mobs grinning like animals around the evidence of their beastial violence. The Inbred morons prancing about beneath sheets in the guise of ghosts?
    Its all just a farce. A farce that Kills.
     
  19. Jack

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    Historically, yes, they were Celtic. However, the Angles, Saxons, and Vikings were all Germanic peoples who displaced the Britons. The English language itself is a Germanic language (granted, the Norman invasion and later developments left us with a vocabulary that is 70% Latin). I'm not arguing that the English are a pure Aryan race, I'm just saying that Germanophiles and Nazis consider them to be.
     
  20. punkmar77

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    Look I disagree with both camps, why should one be superior to another? I am not superior to any other race or species nor are they superior to me. We simply have many different traits where we are either gifted or handicapped. The beautiful Cheetah can outrun me and maybe even eat me but he can't look to the stars and think one day we will be out there, or show compassion or love for an injured or dying fellow cheetah. Different capacaties, self loathing as the human race is a very dangerous thing...most of the horrible despots of the last 5 centuries were self-loathing. Ernesto Guevara once famously said "...At the risk of sounding rediculous let me say that a true revolutionary is guided by feelings of love." This applies to Anarchy as it applies to Animal liberation as it applies to Gaia...
     
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