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"proof" that god exsists rant

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by chaos-ad, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. chaos-ad

    chaos-adExperienced Member Experienced member


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    this really pisses me off im a agnostic i do belive in a creator but these vids say that the cristian model is right and they just put of some pictures and say its proof. it burns my blod so bad when people do this, not just cristians but all religions. i mean there is a creator thats easly proven by the fibbonaci sequence but that dosent prove who is god for all we know the great flying spagetti monster could be the real god or raptor-jesus or bill fucking cosby's ass. religion as i see it is just another way for people to control others...besides true islam like the really old true stuff not the watered down stuff of today -lets out a big breath-.....ok im done....i feel better now

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNujr-nHRGg&playnext=1&videos=IcWJO078eSk&feature=grec_index[/video]

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  2. ungovernable

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    that's ridiculous, you are not an agnostic if you believe in a creator, do you even know what agnosticism stands for ?

    no that's not proven, it CAN'T be proven, that's what agnosticism stands for.

    an anarchist who believe in creationism ? what a joke..

    No comments.... that's really ridiculous.
     
  3. chaos-ad

    chaos-adExperienced Member Experienced member


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    well...someone dosent know when someones just ranting about something...someone sounds a little armchair elitist :lmao: jk

    but really just because someones wrong dosent mean you should put them down like that...try to teach
     
  4. Protspecd

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    He could be an agnostic theist. He believes in a higher being but knows he can not prove it, he just believes.
     
  5. chaos-ad

    chaos-adExperienced Member Experienced member


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    well i ran into misinfo either way im whatever is a person who belives in a creator but not religion as everyone knows it and i was just ranting i wasent really going off facts and now that i think about it i was wrong on the islam thing
     
  6. SurgeryXdisaster

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    This is just more christians using spirituality in place of reason

    and how did you know i worship Bill Cosby's ass?
     
  7. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    Oh yeah, because you're wrong i am an elitist. I could already predict you'd answer some bullshit like that.

    I did teach you and explained you why you were wrong.

    all christians can't prove the existence of god, so they are all agnostics ?


    Then you're not an agnostic.
     
  8. chaos-ad

    chaos-adExperienced Member Experienced member


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    man...calm down its not that imporant
     
  9. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    First, i am calm

    Second, if it is not that important why did you start calling me an elitist ?

    You asked me to teach you but you say this is not important.

    Oh well, keep being contradictory with your agnosticism if you want to...
     
  10. chaos-ad

    chaos-adExperienced Member Experienced member


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    well the reason i said you where a elitist is because how you say things it gives off a very hostile vibe like your getting on someone for being wrong
     
  11. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    All i said is that saying you are agnostic while believing in creationism is ridiculous. The word is appropriated, it IS ridiculous...
     
  12. Protspecd

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    No.. I said he 'knows' he can't prove it. If you talk to many christians they will say it exists because of the proof (mostly the bible), they can't prove it but they think otherwise.
     
  13. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    Someone believing in something and aware that nothing can prove it's true and that it really exist, to me, sounds...... not very anarchist. And definatly not agnostic...

    That's like an adult believing in Santa Clauss...
     
  14. Protspecd

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    Ahh but Santa Clause has been proven to not exist, where as a higher being has not. It can't be fully proved either way but I think even agnostics believe if there is or isn't. It doesn't have to be a strong belief even just a well we can not prove it exists but I don't think there is one or that there is one. It doesn't have to be a religious faith look but a theist look (a god exists). =/
     
  15. ungovernable

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    No, it has not. It is technically impossible to prove that something doesn't exist if it really doesn't exist. Nobody never proved that Santa Clauss doesn't exist, same thing with god.

    But logically, when you pretend to believe in something, it's your responsability to prove it... Something doesn't officially exist until it has been proven, not the opposite... If you believe aliens exists, it's your responsability to prove it, it's not other's responsability to prove that aliens doesn't exist... Same thing with murders, you must prove that it happenned before condemning someone
     
  16. butcher

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    But the SKY WIZARD is real!!!1!!1 :lmao:
     
  17. QueerPunk

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    Ungov I really thing you are being aggro for the sake of being aggro and it's getting tedious really quickly.

    I understand why you get shitty with some people from time to time but there are instances when you just need to lay-off.

    Chill pill.
     
  18. Bunny

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    I feel like I asked this question a million times, but how can you be an anarchist and believe in a higher power? Whatever happened to no gods no masters? :/
     
  19. stinagen

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    well i guess you can separate political philosophy and religious philosophy I'm as Richard Dawkings put it a tea pot agnostic but as long as you do not force others into your religion and keep it unstructured belief system that i don't have a problem with it
     
  20. Anxiety69

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    why can't people see a higher power as a creator but not as a master? I mean there aren't any rules to it.
     
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