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Progressive Anarchism

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by CHARX, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. CHARX

    CHARXMember Forum Member


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    A common argument against any anarchist, socialist, or communist movement is that they advocate doing nothing, but being given something, by a welfare state.

    Perhaps this argument would be easier to deconstruct if we followed progressivism in saying that scientific advancement is necessary to the development of society. It is because of science that we no longer live in the dark ages, but it is also abused by fascists. (The Nazis were very good scientists)

    Despite these state-led atrocities of science, humanity is generally better off today than before. There are still many problems facing us, but progress has been made. [​IMG]

    More food, less area. Food is still hoarded by the richest nations, but as science continues, mass abundance will result (especially upon perfection of nanotechnology,http://hplusmagazine.com/2013/05/29/meetup-radical-abundance-with-eric-drexler-the-founding-father-of-nanotechnology/) , and the greed of corporate governments will be far too Mich for anyone to deny. Science and anarchism go hand in hand. Anarchists should put more emphasis on the advancement of science.

    Thoughts?
     

  2. Sti

    StiExperienced Member Experienced member


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    I believe science is an ill conceived understanding. It is the diagnosis of what is inherent. But if that is the case so be it! Anarchist science.. Is the coolest idea I have ever fucking heard!! This poses to me the question what was nazi science? Well my assumption is to form a science (a basis for understanding) you should form of some sort. If any group on the planet were to make a good invention it would be the anarchists without a doubt because of the sheer fluidity of anarchist thought.
     
  3. JawnLobotomy

    JawnLobotomyActive Member Forum Member


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    The title 'Progressive Anarchism' seems rather redundant. Anarchism tends to be a very progressive way of looking at the potential of a free (or more free) world. Regardless, I think it would be interesting to see a line on your chart depicting world population growth over the same time to see if the shown chart is a direct result of a burgeoning population.

    You mention that science and anarchism go hand in hand, but the thought isn't explained? Is it because anarchists look at the world objectively and try to focus on facts and truths and their deeper meaning? Or is it that anarchists are scientists? I agree that anarchists should put more emphasis on science, but the scientific think tanks are often controlled by multi-nationals that are only looking out for their bottom line (http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/stephen- ... scientists).

    I find it extremely interesting that you used food production for your chart. I'm sure most people know that genetically modified crops are in full circulation in our food system with very little research towards how they might affect our bodies or the ecosystem (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2408621/). We are also all (painfully) aware of Monsanto's policies regarding using their seeds for personal food crops, how their plants can send seeds with their unique genetic makeup and modify personal crops . Monsanto is not shy about this fact. They have even spliced the genes of flounder fish and tomatoes to create the 'Flav'r' Sav'r' - a plumper, juicier longer lasting variety (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavr_Savr)

    Technology and science are supposed to improve the lives of all people around the world, making life easier and taking the workload away from people so we can enjoy our lives. Instead, it has controlled us and made us more dependent on these perceived 'needs'. The people who control the technology still control the people who rely on it. It has not made it easier or better, it has been propagated as a tool of control. Post-scarcity Anarchism by Murray Bookchin is an excellent read regarding how technology should improve lives but actually oppresses those who rely on it.
     
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