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National Anarchists

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Milan, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. Milan

    MilanExperienced Member Experienced member


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  2. Rathryn

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    Uhm... so wait... White Power Anarchists?
    'All animals are equal, some are just more equal than others'?
    WTF?
    I am not necessarily a nationalist, but I AM proud of being Dutch, proud of the customs of my people and proud of all the good things we have done. On the other hand, that in no way makes me superior to anyone from country X, Y or Z, just different.
    Every culture has done fucked up things and every culture has done SOME good things, to say the least.
    Anyhow... I fail to see a connection between white power and anarchism 0.o
     
  3. gupunk00

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    this is ridiculous
    It is a Very bad Joke :'(
     
  4. punkmar77

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  5. Rathryn

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    Just noticed that the WP symbol isn't even aligned to the middle XD
     
  6. K-Townbootboy

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    It's third positionism in disguise, the movements founding father is Troy Southgate a former National Front organizer aswell as a former member of The International Third Position (together with BNP leader Nick Griffin).

    It's not a joke, it's crypto fascism.
     
  7. Milan

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    For those who speak Dutch,
    here's the entire article, AFA Nijmegen has researched them
    http://www.afanijmegen.org/?p=294

    It seems like a strange way to make Anarchists become Nationalists,
    One of the founders, Welf Herfurth, has said some really strange things...

    I translated a small bit:
    "We don't need a government, we should rely on ourselves. (with this Herfurth means THIS Government, as he explains later on)" .. Herfurth says: "Anarchism means I am against THIS Government. In my heart I am a nationalist"
     
  8. statuliber

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    fucking Nazis!
    this stupid querfront-taktik (thats what its called german, i think u can guess what it means) gets on my nerves!
    they are even worse than this so called "anarcho"-capitalists...

    they simply don't understand what our revolt is about...
     
  9. QueerPunk

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    My boots are always ready to kick those fuckwits!
     
  10. Shuei

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    Come on! That's not anarchism, that's oppositionism. Anarchism is against this whole system with governments and pseudo-democracy, not just against the government in charge.

    I fucking hate Nationalism. But then again, that may be because i don't have anything in common with my country's ideals. Anyway, the idea that you are better than others, because you are born on a piece of land is stupid.

    No Borders!
     
  11. persona-non-grata

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    wtf this is just too fucking stupid it's like people think bad of anarchists anyway and now it's gonna be like: "so now they're racist too" it's gonna be a fucked way that people are going see us if this gets really out in the open :S
     
  12. Milan

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    They're part of "New Right",
    according to them, "New Right" is the intellectual part,
    "National Anarchists" the more physical...

    They're mostly active in Australia and New-Zealand,
    "New Right" is mostly the same as the NPD in Germany
    Luckily those National Anarchist fuckwhits are only active in just 2 countries...
     
  13. Robino

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    Nationalize means of production, factories etc. is okay but nationalism is just... f*cked up.
    As a anarcho-syndicalist myself this groups makes me wanna puke...
     
  14. ungovernable

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    yep it's big bullshit, it came from Germany with the national-autonomous movement. They are using red and black flags and reappropriate the black block looks, but under they cover they are still fascists

    Stupidity is everywhere...
     
  15. punkmar77

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    You're right of course, its dangerous as fuck. Divide and conquer is their game.....
    but I got something for 'em

    :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs:
     
  16. QueerPunk

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    The feds must love them...making black blocs attack what looks like more black bloc members.
     
  17. Anxiety69

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    pretty much any group that uses the word NATIONAL is going to be bad. (national front, national socialists, etc.)
     
  18. K-Townbootboy

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    The tendencies are some what related but the Autonome Nationalisten tendency, was more a question of image. Where as national-anarchism is an ideological trend.
     
  19. butcher

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    They are not a joke, well they are to me, but insofar as they take themselves serious, yes its true they exist for real. However, there's about four of these teeny-boppying nutbags in Melbourne, whose leader is a young nutzi named Scott Harrison. he lives in Geelong, Victoria, is concerned about the flouridation of said town's water supplies (do the ZOG ever cease in their attacks on us decent white folk?), non-whiteys and a local council tearing up the National Anarchists' 'guerrila vegie patch'.
    You can find moar about them here... http://anarchonation.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/hello-world/

    or http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=2385
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    http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=838

    So in brief, they exist, have tried a number of times to attach themselves to rallies (and been told to shoo), esp. around planned internet censorship in Aus, tried to infiltrate the punk scene and anarchist groups, but they are not really a serious threat.
    There is also National Anarchist groups elsewhere from my understanding, the most promenient in my mind are the Bay Area national 'Anarchists'

    However, there is a group named Nationalist Alternative, who operate along similar lines, ie appropriate lefty and anarcho politics to push a racist agenda, they are a bit moar worrying.

    hope that helps outline who these fuckers are
     
  20. Milan

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    Well,
    it's all a lot clearer,
    but I'm still wondering how the fuck they get support from so many people,
    while their name would probably attract way other people than they are looking for
    (well... what kind of people would such a paradox attract anyway? the "anarchist" part just seems not that nationalist-attractive...)

    They're yet another name on the growing list of organisations trying to fuck this world up even more than it is already
     
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