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Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Chris Meitanis, Oct 27, 2023.

  1. Spike one of many

    Spike one of many Experienced Member Uploader Active Member Forum Member


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    I mean if you're cool with people not crediting you for your music, that's cool. But not everyon is cool with that.
     
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    I'm aware (and I respect it), but I don't really understand why. I understand why it can be important to the listener ("Oh, I like this, where can I find more of this?") but not really to the creator. But I'm sure there's a reason in there somewhere that makes me understand on a deeper level, I just need to find it.
     
  3. Spike one of many

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    Personally I'm not too uptight about credit for myself either. I mean it's nice to get credit but I'm not gonna be mad about it (for myself). I have signed pictures that I've drawn to be published (on a website, nothing major and not for money) and I wouldn't upload a picture to an online gallery without signing it. Would you?
    But I always try to credit other people for their work. I just feel it's the right thing to do.
     
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  4. Spike one of many

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    Like if I upload an album I don't feel I have to list all the band members and former band members for example, I don't feel that's necessary, anyway they're listed on the record cover anyhow but for (another) example, if I use someone's review, I'll credit them or their blog. It also gives the blog a bit more exposure, however small. I mean we help each other in the punk scene.
    EDIT: Unless I got the review from Discogs or Last FM or something, I couldn't care less about crediting those sites lol.
     
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  5. Spike one of many

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    Yeah you said you're trying to understand why it might be important to some people. Maybe it's ego, I don't know. But is that such a bad thing? It doesn't automatically mean you're an egocentric egomaniac to want credit or recognition for the work you've done. ;)
    Why do band members list their names on their albums? Why does the person that draws the cover sign their name on it?
     
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    I have. :) I've done free commission work for websites and uploaded digital artwork online free for anyone to download/use without credit etc. But then again, I've also been paid to do other stuff that was credited to me, so I guess it's a bit of both.
     
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    The need for recognition is something I can absolutely relate to, I've felt it as well sometimes! I understand it better now!
     
  8. Spike one of many

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    Yay! I'm glad you do :) I'm glad you can relate!
     
  9. Necitheshitter

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    the only punk band taht has actually had a problem with copy right and the lead singer jumped a store selling a bootleg and said if he saw it again he would kill them
     
  10. Spike one of many

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    Which band was that? Crass?
     
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    I just looked it was Sakevi in GISM
     
  12. Spike one of many

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    Damn... didn't know that. No, cos Crass also have a problem with copyright. <EDIT: or rather: don't have a problem with copyright. END EDIT> Not all members, but Steve Ignorant and others. Sorry I don't feel like fact-checking now. But you can read some of this shit: https://www.anarcho-punk.net/threads/crass™-©-artworks-are-copyrighted-its-official.16399/
    and here:
    Crass: Capitalist traitors using copyright laws against Anarcho-Punk.Net - 3000 albums deleted because of these greedy selfish sellout bastards
     
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    oh damn I met steve recently I know rimbaud hates it when they play the old songs but wtf 3k deleted holy shit
     
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    A problem here is the assumption that copyright protects small artists, which it does not. All copyright is is a tool for the capitalist class to enclose as much as they can.
     
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    I believe copyright is just gate keeping, Maybe something like GPL could be used so no other people can make money from it other than the main creator. The problem here is the systems workings in my opinion. They have tried to copy right all the note combinations with the computers in the past as well. I believe copyright is actively harming art and other forms. As it can prevent new experiments with the current art forms.
     
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    "The corruption runs deeper than you'd ever imagine. A multi-billion dollar industry you've never heard of. This is the world Patent Trolls thrive in: A world created for them by our own U. S. Patent system. You can be sued for clicking on a hyperlink, using your own scanner, or sharing your Wi-Fi! It sounds insane, but the reality is even crazier. Patent Trolls look for obvious ideas, patent them, and then sue anyone they claim is infringing on their idea. People's lives and businesses are being destroyed.. and they have no way out. “The Patent Scam” exposes the underbelly of this system, and the people that commit this practice."

     
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    link is broken by the way. Also yeah patenting is scam. It is for the power of the Bourgeoisie.
     
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    The video doesn't display? It works for me, strange

    It's a great documentary showing how copyrights and trademarks are a flawed system because if you really apply all copyrights to the letter then everything is owned by big multinationals and nobody can create anything.

    Big companies are buying copyrights and trademarks over pretty much anything then they sue everyone to make money with lawsuits. It's really disgusting.

    I remember No Gods No Masters shop had issues with copyright trolls who stole our images then registered copyrights over it and pretended it was their own images. There is so much abuse potential with copyrights. And it only benefit big businesses.
     
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    It's georestricted. It says "Video Unavailable - This video is not available" for me as well, but switching over to my VPN and choosing a server in the US makes it show up just fine.

    Edit: I'm downloading it now, anyone know of a free service that allow hosting of a 1.4 GB file?
     
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    If i knew for 1.4 GB i would have uploaded more music lol.
     
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