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Working class anti-hero

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Kobac, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. Kobac

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    Foundations of every country is worker.if workers don t work there s no taxes to collect,no farms to be cultivated,no food to eat,no buildings to be built,no offices and when there s no offices,no corporations,no business mans,no bosses.no more barking at you,slaving 12 hours shift,going to work at 6a.m. and coming home at 9p.m. and desire to take your life away with single bullet is getting tempting every day even more.

    point of this all is that there were times when i worked like fucking idiot for misery,but if you do not work how to get by in capitalist world.
    i m unemployed more than 8 months and it s not bad at all.I work now and than some part time jobs just so i could have a meal.
    I hate working(I m not lazy)cause i know when i work someone just get richer and richer on my expense and my health.

    so i say fuck the work let s make those fuckers do their own work
     

  2. rude-boy

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    if you dont work then how do u get money? sit there and collect unemplyment? so while some one else works their ass off you can get richer? i hate that shit. i work my balls off and alwase give-er and pay taxes so fuckers get to sit around get high play xbox..then you bitch about how when you work. once a month? soem one else gets rick off of you. thats horse shit.

    ya sorry if im getting what your sayign wrong and your not on welfare or u got some other situation going. but i hate lazy people who dotn work and then expect to be taken care of.
     
  3. punkmar77

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    I dont know how it works in Canada rude-boy but in the US workers pay into their own accounts while they work and the government holds it and uses it until the worker is unemployed enough to collect it back. Also I'm almost positive that Kobac is in an eastern European area that probably works totally diferent than the west.
     
  4. Shuei

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    I would rather pay taxes than pay to some leader of the concern...

    I live in the country with the highest tax in the whole world (which isn't communist), we pay 40-50%, and many people are actually fine with it.

    Personally i don't work, but am under education, but many i know would gladly pay high taxes - they just want a say on wether it is used to help some banks control a capitalistic system that has failed, or the money is used to help homeless, sick, elderly etc.
     
  5. Vegetarian Barbarian

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    Id rather not pay taxes and not work. But that doesnt make me lazy, a person isnt defined by their fucking job. Plus, whatd you think would happen in anarchist society? You dont think youll have anyone thats gunna be "lazy" and reek other peoples benefits? And if you say no, are you going to throw them out if they were?
     
  6. punkmar77

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    well in that case we could tie them up to a tree and slap some milk on their genitals and loose a hungry calf on them like they did to traitors in the Mexican Revolution.......just kidding......maybe...
     
  7. Ivanovich

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    Welfare, heh, who's welfare? It aint a hand out, it's the state paying people next to nothing to not riot, steal, and fuck them over. Take what you can, I say, but better to work for yourself outside system if you can cos if you rely on them, they got you.
     
  8. Kobac

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    O.K. let me put it this way!I work,i pay taxes for years and one month i m behind with paying water bill and fuckers they just cut off water for you(they don t give a shit that i payed taxes regulary)
    my monthly salary was about 2500KN(about 500$ more or less)and my rent is 1500KN(300$) and bills all together are 500KN(100$)how the fuck i m gonna live entire month with 100$.
    i m not avoiding job,i m not lazy,and i definitely don t have xbox(expensive where i come from)

    in my country we recive unemployment support for 2 months only if you work for a whole year(they take every month from your salary for your support)so how i m getting richer on expense of HONEST people.that my friend is a horse shit

    like i said i don t wanna pay taxes so that cop can abuse me,i don t wanna pay taxes so that politicians can fuck my life even more,i don t wanna pay taxes so they can lie in my face
    that s why.go realize
     
  9. Kobac

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    Democracy Shuei not communism,and my dear country is 50years behind Denmark in everything!
     
  10. Rathryn

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    Read. My. Sig.... period.
     
  11. rude-boy

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    right so i came into this forgetting this board is very international. and that i wasent arguing with my buddy over here. each contrys have differnt social benifits and plans set up. i got pissed beacuse i know several people sitting on their ass collecting welfare and emplyment insurance and dont work. they dont get tons and tons of cash but my buddy is able to have a small apartment and a life pretty much. i guess its just easyer to be a free loader around here?

    personnaly i dont get how people dont work. the lack of doing things would drive me up the wall. when i go to work im super stoked to be doing somthing and i know that in a few hours im going to be busy working getting my hands dirty. i work in construction/carpentry i need a job that keep me busy and my mind active or else i get really pissy and edgy. i dont mind so much paying taxes. maybe this is being ignorante or wtv but not all the money goes to pigs n liers. what about roads? public places like parks and skate parks and hockey arenas. or the fixing of bridges or funding schools and hospitals? and in the end i get most of it back in tax returns. i payed about 700$ to income tax on my last job and im getting back somewhere in the 500$ range. so in the end its 200$.

    the best way to chaeat the unemplyment if u really dont wanna work. if u happen to live around an indian reserve. my buddy is on unemplyment and welfare and he has a kid so he gets more money. so he was making what ever amount from all that. then to top it off he worked at one of the 6 billion smoke shops on the reserve. so he got that money under the table so no taxes and more un emplyment money.

    or buy apartment buildings in some one elses name like a wife or freind and then collect unemplyment and then rent the rooms out in the apartments. that way youy live there for free and u collect a bunch of cash working for urself while making money from th e goverment.

    in the end. working is just good in my eyes. because till the great revolution a guys gotta live. and if it means working and payng some taxes that dosent all go to pigs but goes to some honest things..somtimes...well then fine. all people gotta do is stop being greedy ficks and things would work
     
  12. ungovernable

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    You can survive without working if you are ressourceful... i'm almost 23 years old, i left my parent's home at 16 years old and went alone in appartment... i NEVER worked, at least not officially, i never had a boss above me, and i'm still surviving. I'm not missing anything, i have my own appartment with all the stuff i need.

    But i do understand some peoples have no other choice than working to survive, it always depend on your situation and what you can do.
     
  13. rude-boy

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    what do you do?
     
  14. Anom

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    Say what? You're that young?! Don't really know why but i thought you were way older! Then again it's not the first time on here i've gotten surprised by how much younger some guys are then what i've thought...
     
  15. Ivanovich

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    I have, it's complete bullshit, and that's putting it mildly. If you changed it to 'not willing to work for their living' I be ok with it, cos work is work and money is money, and there isn't really a connection between the two.
     
  16. Rathryn

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    I work for a living, it's what I do and anyone not willing to work for their money should be shot, quartered, hung and drowned in no particular order.

    Read it more carefully then... 'Cause money equals a living in this society and economic system.
     
  17. Ivanovich

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    It don't have to, it's your choice.
     
  18. Milan

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    No, It is definetly not always your own choice,
    by far most of all people need to work for a living...
     
  19. Ivanovich

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    I not denied you got to work for living. I said you choose to work within society and economic system.
     
  20. Rathryn

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    I never said you had to work within society and the economic system. I said LIVING in this system requires money, you get money off work. I don't care if you get your cash legally or illegally as long as you don't sit around waiting for handouts, imo.
     
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