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Whats an anarchist? What is anarchy? How does anarchism work?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Pitbull19, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. Pitbull19

    Pitbull19New Member New Member


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    Please Everyone, this is an small debate. it simple i just want everyone views on the topic, i myself wont judge or insult anyone or their opinion. that includes you ungovenable.
     

  2. JesusCrust

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    Anarchy is lemons.
     
  3. butcher

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    Please, I will insult without question anyone that disagrees with me. Moreover, that goes for Ungoverable. Fuck off you reactionary scum! :lmao: :beers: :beers: :ecouteurs: :anarchism: <3
     
  4. butcher

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    Seriously though, would you like us to define anarchism? This will not be a 'small debate', lol.
    First and foremost, one must place Anarchism within socio-historical context. Anarchism, as with Marxism, Socialism, Communism, et al., came out of reaction to Capitalist economics. Regardless of what the Primitivists say, anarchism is a reaction to our current economic model. Whether or not this is due to the uni-directionality of time is one question (re: Marxism) though its not central to our current circumstances. What anarchism does note though (as does all forms of socialism) is that Capitalism is fundamentally the exploitation of one class of persons, the worker, for the benefit of another class, your boss. Moreover, it follows that the reclamation of the value of our own work, as workers, to use for the good of society (rather than for the benefit of our bosses) will be beneficial to us and those within our community. Anarchists wish to see a society in which the goods that are produced are used for the benefit of society, not a privileged segment of it. This is only economical though.

    Moreover, anarchists understand that dominant political institutions exist only to maintain economic power. The State is merely a structure created to protect bourgeois rights. Thus it follows that it must be destroyed if Capitalism is to be destroyed.

    So, anywayz, this is only an Anarchist critique of Capitalism and the State, what of Anarchists' aims? Basically, I feel that an anarchist society would be one that facilitates social relationships that are non-hierarchical, non-coercive, directly democratic and based on social control of resources, mutual aid and solidarity.

    Anywayz, from my perspective, anarchists are communists that differ in tactics and politics slightly to Marx. Firstly, we identify with a class that is more broad than the 'proletariat'; lumpen, Indig., and other non-industrial workers are included within my definition of a revolutionary 'class'. Further, i see solutions being created by our comrades, based on their personal circumstances, rather than by the intervention of those with the 'correct' revolutionary program.

    Sorry, have been drinking heavily before writing this, may offer a slightly more articulate explanation in the morning.
     
  5. ungovernable

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    Hey pitbull, i thought you knew everything and you didn't need us to explain you anything since like you say, you are smarter than everyone and you are more anarchist than us.

    This dude is an idiot, don't waste your time with him, i debated 5 pages with him and he's one of the most stupid anarchist wannabe i ever talked to...

    look here for a good laught:
    http://www.punksandskins.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=118757

    he's a gangster who supports street gangs, he hangs out with the Fascists Stands United gang (FSU) who beat up everyone not thinking like them, they beat up peoples who drink or smoke, they beaten up MDC singer because he sang an antifascist skinhead song, they force bands to pay them money, etc...

    he's a sexist, he's homophobic, he says it is more important to make a lot of money and fuck girls than learning about anarchism.... Seriously he's a lost cause.

    He says he respect others opinion and wont insult me hahahahahah.... on the other forum he made a lot of death threats and said multiple time he will kill me :lmao:

    He said so much bullshit.... he pretend everyone can be an anarchist, he sais even nazis can be anarchist, or cops.... He pretend that anarchist cops exists... He also says chaos is anarchy.... Too many bullshit to list it all here

    get the fuck out of here pitbull, you are an idiot!!
     
  6. Anxiety69

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    sounds like someone needs an instant ban here.
     
  7. ungovernable

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    yes, he asked me to ban him lol
     
  8. Carlos

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  9. ungovernable

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    did you see the pictures of him ? :lmao: he looks like a gangsta

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    DOUCHEBAG ALERT !!

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    being proud of having money is sooo anarchist and so punk!!!

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    he looks like a gangsta pimp from the crips or the bloods, NOT a punk !!
     
  10. Pitbull19

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    butcher, thank you for you view. and ungovernable, why dont you send the other pics huh? why do you have my picture saved in the first place?
     
  11. easy e

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    N64. what a baller.
     
  12. Probe

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    hahahahaha I saw the rest of this guys pictures....
    hahahaha!

    EDIT: another thing...why is this in the creative section???
     
  13. ungovernable

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    because i don't want to fill the topic with your ugly pics. 3 pics is enough.

    I didn't save your picture, i just copied the links you posted on punksandskins.com

    because he is a douchebag !!
     
  14. punkmar77

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    So maybe the kid is very misguided and confused about his identity, but he might learn a thing or two here about Anarcho-Syndicalism and become a better person for it.......
     
  15. ungovernable

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    Already tryed to explain him what anarchism is, but he keeps thinking he knows everything, he says he's smarter than everyone and refuse to listen when we tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about.. Or he will just tell you that he's gonna kill you and skull fuck your mom....

    just take a look at the debate i had with him, so funny...
    http://www.punksandskins.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=118757

    at least i had a good laugh... he's distractive
     
  16. disfuck

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    wow ungovernable you really tore into his ''hood'' ass , i hope his home boys dont read the punxandskins argument ,lol,this fuck should get a ban :D :D :D
     
  17. Anxiety69

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    he uses fag and other homphobic words as insults, he says he's going to fuck people's moms. he post pictures of himself posing with cash, he think anarchism is all about chaos, laughs at the notion of anarchism and order.
     
  18. punkmar77

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    I know I read his other thread, and like I said he has a lot to learn..... :/
     
  19. ungovernable

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    Yeah we should ban him, he asked me multiple times to ban him, he even said to do it under 48 hours... he didn't believe me i was the admin, he thinks i am lying on everything hahah...

    not only he use homophobic/sexist words but he think that calling others faggots isn't homophobic... what a joke

    even after pointing him the definition of the word he keeps saying bullshit

    it's hopeless, he will never understand anything....
     
  20. Bunny

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    I don't think he's that open to learning sadly. From reading the punks and skins post he seems like he doesn't want to learn but rather make excuses and have throw in comments about such classy acts as skull fucking moms. He ignores the information given to him and believes what he wants to.
    The actions and comments made on the thread just show that he's cancerous to the community. Even little things, I mean no one (from what I've seen) feels the need to pose shirtless to show off. Pretending faggot isn't a homosexual reference so he can continue calling people it? Using the term anarchy/anarchist to add to his "tough" persona. Just ban this ass.

    Also pitbull, if you don't like Ungov and think he wrong about everything, why did you join a site the he started?
     
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