Loading...
Welcome to Anarcho-Punk.net community ! Please register or login to participate in the forums.   Ⓐ//Ⓔ

What makes a band truly ANARCHO?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by David-N, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. David-N

    David-NActive Member Forum Member


    40

    1

    9

    Sep 13, 2009
     
    So what really makes a band truly ANARCHO? We've got Conflict, Oi Polloi, Aus-Rotten, Dead Kennedys, Crass and so on... but why?

    Is it just about the political, anti-faschist, anti-capitalist... lyrics? Or is it more simple?
    Does drawing an A in a circle on a CD over and shouting "ANARCHY!" on concerts make a band anarcho?
     

  2. ASA

    ASAExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    888

    0

    0

    Nov 2, 2009
     
    didn't u answer ya own question, were dead kenndys anarchists
     
  3. David-N

    David-NActive Member Forum Member


    40

    1

    9

    Sep 13, 2009
     
    But that makes the anarchy symbol just a bad trademark.

    Where's the line between "ordinary" punk and anarcho-punk?
    What's with all the good punk bands that have political lyrics and are also anti-faschist, anti-capitalist... and all that stuff, but are according to the "anarcho-punk-policeman" (not telling who) on this forum NOT ANARCHO (and I'm not refering to The Casualties, NOFX, Anti-Flag and similar)?
    Anarchy was never truly defined anyway...
     
  4. Ring Of Truth

    Ring Of TruthExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    201

    0

    4

    Dec 28, 2009
     
    Isn't it the bands beliefs?

    Are the Dead Kennedy's anarcho? I mean Jello ran for president of the USA
     
  5. David-N

    David-NActive Member Forum Member


    40

    1

    9

    Sep 13, 2009
     
    See that's what I'm talking about - questioning Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra to be precise.

    But I see Jellos actions more as an "working on the inside" matter, because that's where you can really make some damage.
     
  6. punkmar77

    punkmar77Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member


    5,737

    185

    718

    Nov 13, 2009
     United States
    I would think that a band should state clearly that they are anti-fa, anti-state, anti-deist, as well as offer up thoughts on solutions to those cancers, and in my book also
    pro-ALF/ELF, revolutionary and ACTIVE. But thats just my humble opinion. Also Jello is not an Anarchist per-se but he believes in the same goals we do so lets just say he is an Honorary Member of the clan.
     
  7. Ring Of Truth

    Ring Of TruthExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    201

    0

    4

    Dec 28, 2009
     
    I agree 100% punkmar
     
  8. Anom

    AnomExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    698

    0

    0

    Dec 21, 2009
     
    Nuh, the difference between anarcho- and non anarcho bands lies in weather or not they have a myspace page! Everyone knows that! :p
     
  9. killthedinosaurs

    killthedinosaursMember Forum Member


    10

    0

    0

    Jan 18, 2010
     
    non [email protected] bands make propaganda for there concerts on Facebook :p

    a reallyy important things is for me.... beside what they are saying what they are (anti-fa, anti homophobic, anti sexist, anti capitalist and so on....) is what they are doing.....i band can say they are sooooo anti sexist or something but anyway when they are really macho, making homophobic jokes and stuff like that they are not really [email protected]
     
  10. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


    4,338

    70

    24

    Aug 21, 2009
    Male, 34 years old
    Canada United States
    Lyrics of course. That's the only thing i care about.

    Then it's the same debate than "what makes a person a real anarchist"... you just need to analysis the arguments
     
  11. Ring Of Truth

    Ring Of TruthExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    201

    0

    4

    Dec 28, 2009
     
    Oh shit, I guess we are a capitalist band now since we use Facebook and Myspace, better start changing them lyrics and writing more friendly sounding music.... damn ;)

    I agree action is important. And as a band that can be really tricky, because if you vocally support animal liberation for example in your music and in your writing and stuff... then when animals are liberated where you happen to be, you tend to be an easy target for the authorities. Myself I have to really watch my step on that, since it seems that where ever I move to (and I tend to move a lot) there are liberations from fur farms, and because of my political views the cops in St. Cloud MN actually admitted to following me around town... so since I am so vocal I have to be careful of my actual level of involvement. So as a musician sometimes you must decide is your role that of an educator, or that of direct action, or a mix of both??? Because we do need both educators and those willing to act upon that education. I must refuse to tell you which role I take since we are on the internet.
     
  12. Anom

    AnomExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    698

    0

    0

    Dec 21, 2009
     
    I'm not much of a musician and haven't had the cops following me around but about that what you can and cannot say i as an artist can relate. What one could possibly have putten up out in the street has to be very different from what one can show at a gallery, if one would choose to be able to do both and be able to visit ones own openings. This especially if the artwork is of a political nature, for example about animal liberation. Even if the content can in both cases be political, the name can not, and ultimately neighter the technique. Plus there is that whole secret part about the actual actions.
     
  13. Rabbit

    RabbitExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    203

    1

    0

    Oct 26, 2009
     
    Jello has said in the past that he doesn't think that humans are ready to handle living in anarchy at this time. That being said, he's still very committed to the same goals as most anarchists
     
  14. Ring Of Truth

    Ring Of TruthExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    201

    0

    4

    Dec 28, 2009
     
    Hey I love, the Dead Kennedy's and Jello! I agree with what you say about him working towards the same ends.
     
  15. ASA

    ASAExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


    888

    0

    0

    Nov 2, 2009
     
    i don't think jello understood the text then if he says 'humans r not ready', anarchism is obstensibly rather a human condition, its like saying we're not selfish, ya gotta be to survive, how much is the system of entrenchemnt, we r not free until we endeavour for freedom
     
  16. Anxiety69

    Anxiety69Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


    2,341

    6

    156

    Oct 18, 2009
    Male, 43 years old
    Long Beach CA United States
    i'm surprised no one has said what i think makes a band truly anarcho... practicing what they preach, activisim, etc. Not just singing songs about how to resist things, but actually resisting them themselves.
     
  17. utteroi

    utteroiNew Member New Member


    2

    0

    0

    Jan 19, 2010
     
    I agree with Anxiety69, practice what you preach, if you sing about anarchy, and anti this and anti that, then you better be on the front lines as an activist and protesting the bullshit.
    We should have punks protesting outside of wal-marts and mcdonalds, just like the religious influenced protest outside abortion clinics and gays.

    Anarcho bands do not make music for a living, they make music as a form of teaching and raising their voice. Anarcho bands should have members working within the society to make the world a better place, not just telling kids what to do. Work for non-profit organizatoins, work for human rights, work understanding the system and finding loopholes within it. Although the economy blows, jobs are being made everyday by people, we can make our own.
    Make music its great, but an Anarcho band doesn't just make music.
     
  18. punkmar77

    punkmar77Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member


    5,737

    185

    718

    Nov 13, 2009
     United States
    I did I said "revolutionary and ACTIVE"
     
  19. Anxiety69

    Anxiety69Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


    2,341

    6

    156

    Oct 18, 2009
    Male, 43 years old
    Long Beach CA United States
    you did you did! ok i rephrase what i said, Punkmar77 said what i feel and am surprised no one else commented on...

    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
  20. Anxiety69

    Anxiety69Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


    2,341

    6

    156

    Oct 18, 2009
    Male, 43 years old
    Long Beach CA United States
    very well said :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
     
Loading...