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What is going on in England? EDL/UAF

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Rosetta Stoned2, May 27, 2013.

  1. Rosetta Stoned2

    Rosetta Stoned2Active Member Forum Member


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    So what the actual fuck is happening in England? I live in California and this is the first I've heard about the EDL (English Defense League) and the UAF (Unite Against Fascism).
    From a brief review of the EDL it's a far-right anti-Islam, and anti-Sharia law, they throw marches and demonstrations against Islam, and I read that there have been riots and brawls between them and the UAF.
    I would like to know what else there is to know on the EDL, and how do you all feel about the UAF.
    Have you been in any protests against the EDL, what news have you heard living in the UK or Europe, and what is the current state of EDL.
    Please help out.
     

  2. IamMe

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    there was a EDL demonstration in my home town of Swansea which is in wales (that small country next to England which isn't Scotland) and they were met by anti fascist demonstrates. both sides exchanged chants and there was a heavy police presence so no fighting broke out. i wernt there so i cant personally comment on the rally. one thing i would say is that Muslims are trying to push Islamic laws into small communities throughout Britain which is a bad thing. plus there has recently been a terrorist attack in London where two Muslims hacked a mans head off in the middle of broad day light while shouting Ala is god. i am against fascism, racism and patriotism but Muslims extremists need to be stopped and as there brain washed to the extreme i cant think of a way these people can be stopped. i can see there point of view, we've been in there country for a while now on a killing spree for oil and control and there giving us a taste of death in our streets. but i cant answer your question because i have little to no knowledge of the EDL or the UAF. but i can say that the EDL are football (socker) supporting lunatics who love to fight any one who inst like them and say no to any thing that isn't British, plus there a lot of middle class, upper class people who support them and want the British boarders closed. its a really confusing subject and i probably didn't answer any question you asked. heres a link to the news report of that demonstration.
    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-2493971

    Also i personally believe we should be allowed to go any where in the world we want if we wanna hitch hike to Africa we should be able to without having to cross boarders and so on. the world should be united as one.
     
  3. xXZenyattaXx

    xXZenyattaXxExperienced Member Experienced member


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    "Muslims are trying to push Islamic laws into small communities throughout Britain which is a bad thing. "

    That's like, borderline racist dude.... it's equivalent to saying "Jews control the media". It's...... a shitty.... inaccurate.... dangerous thing to say...
     
  4. Rosetta Stoned2

    Rosetta Stoned2Active Member Forum Member


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    hmm okay, thanks to both of you. If anybody has any other news or comments about the two groups or even the Muslim extremest in Britain please state your opinions, thank you.
     
  5. sheep6665

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    I fucking hate that way of thinking in western left wing - idiotic religious right wing fanatic isn't white and Christian => we won't tell anything against him because its racist...
     
  6. jack torrance

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    i think whats going on in england is, capitalism has failed and shot itself in the foot. We had riots which if had lasted a few more days the country would have collapsed and now the state are shoving fascism down our throats before the working classes can organize themselves. EDL have been going for a while now but havent really been taken seriously, as on there demonstrations all that seems to happen is they meet up in a pub get drunk then get escorted around by police and protected from protesters. Every demonstration i have been too they have been largley outnumbered but the fact they are allowed to demonstrate throwing nazi salutes and chanting racist slogans while tax payers money is getting spent on the police protecting them is scary enough.

    There are alot of splinter groups who claim they are not radical enough like the north west infidels and the combined ex forces but they spend their time protesting the sale of halal meat in asda. There is also UKIP which are an actual political party disguising themselves as libertarians and aiming for the votes of the only people in the country still voting, pensioners. they have a very openly racist stance and members affiliated with nazi groups.

    Its no supprise white working class people are buying into these groups though as there is constant fear mongering bout muslim terrorists in our news, and a long history of having immigrants used as a scapegoat for our economic problems. These groups promote themselves as an alternative to the state but in reality they are just protecting it.

    As someone said earlier there has been a brittish soldier stabbed and killed in london last week, and has been used for these facist agendas in most of the papers and news claiming that the man was 'beheaded' by black muslim 'animals'. This has gained massive support for these nationalist groups and rallys have been popping off around the country since.
    The soldiers murder was a terrible thing but there are murders every day its only when a muslim or a brown person is involved that our media take any interest. there has been a 70 year old pakistani man stabbed to death since the incident with racial intention and a mosque burnt down with little to any media coverage. I am against muslim extremism but it is a bit of a myth, and nowhere near as much of a threat as made out to upset the public and cause race divides.
     
  7. jack torrance

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    sorry ive not mentioned uaf there, they are pretty much a bullshit group of mainstream politicians and followers who want to make out they are against facism but singing a peice of paper and waving a banner around. There are alot of unaffiliated people who attend counter demonstrations aswell as small antifacist groups, middleclass student socialist and anarchist groups, and immigrants and working class youths out to defend themselves. As the EDL and these partys grow though we need more people attending counter demonstarions and get it nipped in the bud. Its crazy to think its became an 'English' thing to be a nazi when one of the only good thing this country has done is fight nazis
     
  8. statesanctionedterror

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    There seems to be alot of EDL marches popping up this weekend, Hopefully theres a strong Antifa presence at most of them, Ino in Sheffield something kicked of with the EDL scum. Abit ago wasnt UAF stewards handing anarchists over to police?
     
  9. Rosetta Stoned2

    Rosetta Stoned2Active Member Forum Member


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    Damn Jack, thanks a lot for all of that, especially about the UAF. So has anybody on this site done anything against the EDL, protesting, fighting against, ext.
    Be nice to know.
     
  10. IamMe

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    xXZenyattaXx i don't think that's racist my friend the Islamic law says you cant play loud music and other stupid rules that try and keep people in control. ill admit im really uneducated about the subject and only answered because of bordem and i heard of a rally by the EDL in my local area. i love the fact Britain is a melting pot of so many cultures it creates a really unique atmosphere you don't find in many other places, its the raeson we got reggae in the U.K. Im friends with some one who is from Africa and comes to college in wales. i think that's so incredible you can meet people from the other side of the world and have a cennection with them. i got no problem with religion or foreign laws as long as they keep it to there selves as soon as they start preaching thats when it pisses me off. ye jack torrance sounds like he knows what he's talking about and sounds well educated in politics unlike me. no i aint been to any demonstrations
     
  11. UnityFreedomAnarchy

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    In short the EDL are basically a load of fuckwits, they oppose immigration, yet their leader is a second generation Irish immigrant. Where I live, Aylesbury, we have a high density Indian/Pakistani population and in response have a lot of overweight, uneducated thugs campaigning about how wrong it is that this country, which based on its geographical position must be founded by immigrants at one time or another, lets people who weren't born here, live near them.
    Idiots. :@ :ecouteurs: :antifa:
     
  12. Rebellious twit

    Rebellious twitExperienced Member Experienced member


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    Fuck EDL, keep fighting comrades international solidarity :ecouteurs:
     
  13. Jo Spanner

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    Antifa all over this shit. Fuck the EDL. Pseudo-working class, thick as pigshit, transphobic, homophobic, misogynist racist thugs. The only good EDLer is the one with my boot in their face.
     
  14. nclpw

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    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M[/video]
    Haha, I really thought they were trolling.
     
  15. IamMe

    IamMeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    what a stupid fuck i dont think he understands what hes saying never mind any one else. any one seen the auto tuned version of this its funny as fuck. i hope he feels as stupid as he sounds bloody boneheaded twat. i bet after this he went home and orderd a curry, fuckin moron.
     
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