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What can be done? Racist and Fascist online communities.

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Polden, Mar 6, 2011.

  1. Polden

    PoldenMember Forum Member


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    I'm still learning about the ideals of anarchism and the likes of bringing down capitalism, but one thing I'm aware of and strongly oppose is racism.

    My question goes out to the anarcho-punk community, why can't we do something to combat online communities such as http://www(dot)stormfront(dot)org? Surely we can disrupt them or something atleast? :/

    I realise my post isn't very well constructed but I hope you understand my question and can provide me with information on the topic.
     

  2. butcher

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    It, and others of its sort, have been fucked with rather often.

    User lists of many far-right websites/forums have been hacked and release publicly (ie. not too long ago the Melbourne National Anarchists blog was taken over by someone who preceeded to use the blog to post photos of these racist teeny-boppers and hilarious anti-na writings), as were the members lists of the BNP not too long ago.

    As for stormfront's continued existence, i think they're kinda used to hack attempts, and thus have their security shit sorted, i don't know much about these things but.

    If yr interested in following teh nutzis' movements in aus, i'd recommend following @ndy's blog (slackbastard.anarchobase.com) or fightdemback (fightdemback.org).
     
  3. butcher

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    oh, and i broke the link to stormfront in your post Polden to discourage pingbacks and whatnot (last time i linked to a far-right site i saw them start to follow this site and reprint screenshots from it)
     
  4. Polden

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    No problems with the link, fair enough.

    I have been aware of fightdemback.org for a while now but find it very inactive and was discouraged by the incomplete website (making it hard to get involved), I will now follow slackbastard.anarchobase.com and I thankyou for the link.
     
  5. LiveVeganStayVegan

    LiveVeganStayVeganActive Member Forum Member


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    Onepeoplesproject.com is my favorite resource, the guy who mainly runs it, DLJ, was the first person to put the Bouncing Souls on T.V. many many years ago, he is a bad ass dude who knows his racists and knows how to deal with them and works with people like us and also with mainstream groups.

    As far as taking down places like Stormfront, I like the idea but also I see stormfront as a way to keep up with their community. There are tons of people on their with accounts who are on our side but are gathering fucking killer intel and helping us shut down their events or further expose them. Plus a place like Scumfront is probably going to be hard to take down, Don Black is an asshole and a racist and a terrorist but one thing he isn't is stupid. He has probably built his shitty forum like a fucking castle and it wouldn't be easy getting in. Best thing to do is turn them all against each other or make them ultra paranoid. You could also always try DDOS.
     
  6. The ClicheAntagonist

    The ClicheAntagonistMember Forum Member


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    The existence of online racist/fascist communities CAN actually do some good. By posing as one of them I was able to eventually obtain phone numbers, addresses, information on their sympathizers who were hiding in the shadows and posing as members of the upstanding community (even holding public office), and also key in on internal rivalries within their groups.

    Many of them are smart little nazis (oxymoron noted) and would never give out too many details to people they hadn't met in person. Others... not so much.

    If you seek an "in" with them, you can have a realistic cover story for why you are not able to participate or meet in person. Say for example, you are in the military and you are... "fuck man... stuck in Afghanistan for another 7 months wasting ragheads... but looking forward to making some new friends to continue the fight once you get back on home soil" Maybe you're on parole and can't afford to get hemmed up again cause you already got too many strike "Man if my PO new I was even on this website..."

    Over enough time you can create multiple profiles on the same site so that they can vouch for each other. Don't be Captain Obvious and try to do this too fast. Hell... once you are established enough you can even use it to create infighting. Say one of your "friends" on there has expressed thoughts about how the NSM are a bunch of show-nazi's that just parade around in their uniforms and don't get shit done. Well a few months later, the NSM comes to town, start talk to him in a public forum about how the Hammerskins in the area shouldn't show up for their pussy-ass rally.

    Get the picture? To do this you really need a strong knowledge of the enemy. You need to know if your fake persona is an odonist or christian identity. You need to know why 14 is an important number. Say you went with the Afghanistan cover story... you'd want to make damn sure you knew which unit you're with (and verify that they are actually deployed), that you knew what caliber your M-4 is, that you can tell them that being a 13B infantryman you did your training at Fort Benning. It's a lot of work to build up the story but it can be worth it.

    I was able to get a nazi who came to my town arrested and sent back to serve the rest of his sentence (for a racially motivated stabbing) simply by being on their boards an learning that he was traveling to a rally in my state... a double violation of his parole.

    Now don't get on there and start bombing them with stuff you've seen me talk about here. I've. chances are they are watching this site like we're watching. Don't use these specifics and don't jump on right after you read this. But when the time is right, with your own twists, you can use their own sites against them.
     
  7. butcher

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    @The ClicheAntagonist
    if what yr sharing is true, then I hope that yr not using a photo of yrself as an avatar...
     
  8. The ClicheAntagonist

    The ClicheAntagonistMember Forum Member


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    Oh I am but I'm not worried about it. They already know me. I had a friend who used to be a SHARP but then fell in love with some nazi chick and betrayed everything he stood for. Not a lot of secrets left.
     
  9. SOADcore

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    Sounds like an epic Blockbuster-Thriller. :lmao:
     
  10. Sutekha

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    For damaging Nazi websites:
    (if you're interested then you're going to have to put the effort in to get a bit geeky but some fucker has to do this shit, and besides, the capitalist runs their world on computer systems you really need to know a little about this business)

    Learn about SQL injecting.
    DDOSing.
    etc

    Spamming and shit are pathetic and ineffective methods of damaging a web domain but will annoy the people that use it. For example it'll piss off the supremacist fucktards if you set up a bot to spam a forum with black power speeches, anarchist manifesto excerpts, gay pride videos, simple pornography, crude and vulgar images or text, etc.

    You can use various methods (sometimes the best is pretending to be a young, interested, budding neo-nazi) to infiltrate the communities and gain info, meeting locations, names, etc. Just be careful if you do this and take steps to ensure you're not traced. On the subject of tracing you should bear in mind most things you do on the internet are monitored and recorded, learn how to set up several proxies if you're as paranoid as I am.

    There is a wealth of information out there telling you how to actually destroy and eliminate Nazi websites, but you have to have the patience and time to read and learn how to do it.

    Smash the fascist!
     
  11. butcher

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    gay porn may actually have an undesired impact on the nutzis though... ;)
     
  12. The ClicheAntagonist

    The ClicheAntagonistMember Forum Member


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    Hey... if it slows down their breeding how could it be undesired?
     
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