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Vids and Links From May 15th Actions in Palestine

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by DET IRONSIDE, May 16, 2011.

  1. DET IRONSIDE

    DET IRONSIDEActive Member Forum Member


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    People tried to cross at Rafah but were stopped by Egyptian military. A planned convoy was banned, so much for change huh?

    http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsConte ... nned-.aspx

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    Demonstrations in Tel Aviv on the saturday:

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyZ40CuWreQ&feature=share[/video]

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... 1c4c07154f

    In Gaza alone two people were shot, one is martyred and one journalist is still critical, check the video from the Gaza protest at Eretzat about 8 mins in:

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQf0DE6RUfo[/video]

    Egyptian police fired tear gas as it tried to get its citizens back under the thumb:

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    Syria was a weird one where people went into the golan and plenty got killed:
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgnMczQAIGs[/video]
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oIkDzrwZLM&feature=autoshare[/video]

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    and this was the official AFP caption: An Israeli undercover policeman holds a gun as riot policemen arrest a Palestinian protester during clashes in the east Jerusalem Arab neighborhood of Issawiya on May 15, 2011 while heavy clashes broke out near Ramallah in the West Bank when youths clashed with Israeli troops as Palestinians mourned the 63rd "nakba" anniversary of Israel's creation. PHOTO: AFP

    On the Lebanese/Israeli border:
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    50 000 turned out at Maroun al Ras to demonstrate ten were shot dead report here:
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 1c47e4.111


    This is a good independent article on the day's action:
    http://gazatvnews.com/2011/05/bloddy-su ... d-lebanon/

    But an important point to note. Jordan is the only country from which there were no fighting on the border, basically because Jordanian police tear gassed everyone that wanted to engage fully at the border. Only about 2000 out of 20 000 decided to go and they got turned back by Jordanian police :/
     

  2. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    Thanks for the summary, great post I think - but is it really necessary to talk about
    - it's no religious war our comrades fight in Palestine...
     
  3. DET IRONSIDE

    DET IRONSIDEActive Member Forum Member


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    Martyrdom isn't religious as far as I'm concerned. Its when you die for what you believe in.

    Martin Luther King to Bobby Sands
     
  4. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    Debate on basic principles?
    King and Sands never had only "one" side, I think no "hero" in history was the image projected after his/her death, the result was never really successful.
    Especially Sands death was very questionable, a great loss to his comrades and the cause, I think the british weren't that unhappy to get rid of the H-Block Ten - and btw. almost nobody remembers the other nine starved to death. To die isn't a healthy example to be given to support an idea.

    And for the stereotype of martyrdom & the reason why I try to evade "martyred" in every case possible:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr
     
  5. DET IRONSIDE

    DET IRONSIDEActive Member Forum Member


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    I think we just think differently. I wouldn't call a suicide bomber a martyr for example but while there are definitely religious connotations so you've got a point but if anything has proven itself to us is that one has to be prepared to lay your life on the line on order to make any change...or not.

    There are reasons we remember the dead volunteers of the Spanish Civil War for instance and many of us have menorials to them.

    Its because we reecognise their willingness to fight for some form of freedom or positive social change and risk their lives.

    To me thats a martyr who died because their beliefs perhaps you think differently but on this you'll never change my mind.

    To me its merely a term of respect.
     
  6. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    A couple of pictures i took on May 15th protest in montreal to support 3rd intifada & remember 63rd year of ankba

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    ^ thats me ^
     
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