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Transphobia in Anarchism

Diskussion i 'General political debates' startad av Chris Meitanis, 1 januari 2024.

  1. Starfighter

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    What Jimmy said.
     
  2. Artieparty

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    Holy motherfucking hell mate. You come into a leftist space and admit to holding a right wing belief? What the hell is wrong with you?
    For one, I am a trans male. The last thing I care about right now is if I have a dick or not, if you can believe it. I'm more worried about how America has concentration camps and is raiding churches. Now you mentioned class struggle. I myself am poor, and I grew up on food stamps and even then I have had days where I didn't have dinner (my school had free breakfast and lunch). I recognize that this was only a life I lived because money is valued more than people, and that the upper classes strive to keep me in this lower class to further their own wealth.
    Now onto your point about Palestine. I remember early into the genocide (I am not sure about know) openly queer people going to Gaza to give aid and they were just fine. Even if every single Palestinian was a raging homophobe/transphobe I still would not support Israel. Why? I don't support genocide. While queer rights are important, Palestinians deserve to be able to keep their homes and live in their own land even, and to me that is a much more pressing matter on the global stage.
    Now onto your other points which are complete and utter bullshit. Regret rates are lower than tattoos for gender affirming care. I am an adolescent, and constantly think of ending my own life because I cannot receive the care I need in order to live a happy life. I have thought about carving myself open. Allowing me to do that would be more cruel than letting me have testosterone, because at least one allows me to live past 17.
    Nobody is walking around with their penises out, and if they are it's either at an adult's only event or usually they get arrested or their asses beat.
    My identity should not be fought. I have always felt like a man even before I knew the words or how fucked the world is. If anything it is mindsets like yours that should be fought because, believe it or not, you even thinking these things hurts people, including me. Go learn about actual leftism or go fuck yourself.
     
  3. divotfreely

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    u sound like you redy to throw molotan and or shke ur head.\Fuk em. :lgbt:or die tryin.
     
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  4. divotfreely

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    ...wait ArtieParty...meansz ...farty party ?
     
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  5. Starfighter

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    Just to be clear: "arch-punk" is banned for transphobia and won't be directly answering in this thread. I think the responses to his idiocy are important to read and without the comment that started it it wouldn't be coherent, that's why I didn't delete it along with the ban.
     
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  6. Rune

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    Fair enough. Let people see the whole thing. :)
     
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  7. nick007

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    Good call Admin Team. Thanx for your hard work & keepng us in the loop about it.
     
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    no no not farty party. Artie is my name and it just rhymes.
     
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    Right.
    ....I'm an anarchistic......think hate happy people....but want to Fuk happy fem boys.....??
    I was so happy when jimmy smack that chump ......cuz I was at a loss for words .....yes me....I almost considered it was a troll Loki....or even nsa.....<3:@:oi::anti-nazi::fire:....
    :cloud:i want a brew now but work day just beginning.
     
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    I’m pretty sure that was a fledgling representative looking for its constituency. Poor things are getting disoriented by climate change.
     
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    The only ones getting disoriented by climate change are the ones who deny it's a thing.
     
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    It's extremely easy to get disoriented by all the hot air coming out of the GOP these days leading to heat exhaustion.
     
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    Especially if you believe that shite matterz and/or WE are actually going to make a difference in our LIFE time. Nihilistic X0

    That cat needs to go to the woods and just let nature take its course.
    I would even offer a hand to bite by sharing an invite for that cat to come to my nest. They might need a smack upside the head /a slap or maybe just a hug. Worse case my weed plants will have more organic fertilizer.
    I will rarely help a person or pick up trash off the street , but my heart tells me not to give up on sheep until it is rendering time.
    - still a doMe doomy morning 8-)
    Insta$tupado IMO
     
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  15. ungovernable

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    We have received this email after a moderator banned @arch-punk@arch-punk
    I'll let you decide what to do, I am only forwarding the request. Now I do realize these transphobic comments were nasty AF and have no place here. The ban was 100% deserved. I'm not sure if the apologies are genuine or just some AI-generated nonsense. To me it feels like a pretty strong statement to not only self-proclaim yourself as transphobic, but add on top of it that it's a disease that must be fought...

    In my opinion, even if the person was truly open to dialogue despite being transphobic, APN is not the place to debate whether being pro-LGBTQ makes sense or not. We're not an education platform for those against our core values. APN is a place for people who already share these values to network and organize around common points of unity.

    Anyway - Thank you for your responses to his comments and for keeping this place real to the value it stands for. As Starfighter mentioned, these community responses are very important.
     
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    Hm... Usually I'd say fuck 'em, or direct them towards some other place where they could educate themselves, but if they actually are from Russia, this could be legitimately the only website where they could be exposed to any sort of actual anarchist ideology, so maybe it's sort of our duty to do a little educating? Either way, maybe this could be a poll in Popular Assembly?
     
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    I am leaning towards yay- except I am caught up in their screen name.
    Arch-punk ? Are they an ArchVillian to our counter - culture? Antagonist or Protagonist? ( IME - I know I get stuck in words and my communication skills are retarded , at best ....so I acknowledge I could be concentrating on a moot point).
     
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    I get very unsincere vibes from his message. If he "understood" he was wrong before making that post, then why make it? I couldn't really see any "help me understand" sentiments in there. My guess is that he wants back in for malicious reasons.

    I mean, even if he'd come around, would we even want such a person on "our side"?

    I know I'm being almost childish for sticking to my initial response without seriously contemplating giving him a second chance and I recognize this flaw. If it's decided he's allowed back I won't fight it, but now you all know how I feel.

    Edit: However, since the first of september this year it's a crime in Russia to even read(!) anything not approved by their government (such as politics going against Putin). This makes me more inclined to reach people over there, sure... But...
     
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    I definitely feel that. I have old head friends that left A-P , many years ago , because of static from cats like this.
    Dare I say I am neutral- without being in support of an oppressor.

    .... Either way, maybe this could be a poll in Popular Assembly?.....
     
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  20. Spike one of many

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    I've always believed in giving people a second chance, if they ask for it. I doubt he would've bothered writing that email if he didn't mean it.

    If he indeed only wants to come back for malicious reasons we can simply ban him again. For good this time. I think the potential benefits of letting him come back (allowing him to change his mindset and possibly that of those around him by giving him the opportunity to interact with us, as long as he's open and willing to change) far outweigh any possible negative consequences. Like, what's the worst that can happen?
     
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