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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Protspecd, Sep 6, 2010.

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  1. Protspecd

    ProtspecdExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Hey guys

    I was wondering about this site. You guys seem to be so against anarcho-capitalism yet you are very hypocritical. This site has a store and is supported by facebook, that is basically anarcho-capitalism. I just want to know why you guys seem to be so against the ideal when this forum is basically founded upon the ideal. Hopefully this post can make you see what this forum really is and you guys won't be so harsh on anarcho-capitalists (you would be insulting yourselves anyways).
     

  2. butcher

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  3. Bakica

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    :lmao: :lmao:
     
  4. ryan1980

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    Trying to break even isn't capitalism.
     
  5. Bunny

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    its to support the site, without the little tee-shirt store we couldn't afford to keep the site going. Its not because we want to sell, its because in our capitalistic society we have to.
     
  6. punkmar77

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    Protspecd once again our evil plans are foiled by your sheer genius....the shirts are not really sold, they are something you receive for a donation to the site, you donate that money directly to the website and receive a t-shirt in exchange there is no profit made to produce more shirts to create more profit to produce more shirts to create more profit that would be capitalism. So no we are not being hypocritical with allowing a link to the evil facebook or the even more evil myspace as we are not creating revenue for those sites but simply seeking to educate entertain and inform new people. So either you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, or you are trying to stir up the hornets nest on purpose. Really simple solution, if we are such unbearable hypocrites....make good on your whiny little past threats and never come back.
     
  7. ungovernable

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    wow what you are saying is really fucking stupid, you don't even understand what anarcho-capitalism is. We do not support capîtalism here, but we live in a capitalist society so we have to pay the server cost. And we aren't getting enough donations. You are critizing us, but did you donate money to help the site running ? No ? well, that's exactly because of peoples like you that we have a t-shirt shop.

    Anarchists aren't against commerce. Do you really think we would stop selling t-shirts in an anarchist society ? The problem isn't the commerce but the logical of profit, and since NO PROFIT is made with the t-shirt shop (ALL profits goes to fund anarcho-punk.net and other projects), there isn't really any problem. If we were anarcho-capitalists, we would put ads on this website and sell our t-shirt at hot topic and ebay.
    This is exactly how ALL anarchist organisations, anarchist bands, anarchist groups (etc) works in the world.

    So you are saying that people using facebook and selling t-shirts are systhematically anarcho-capitalists ? Do you realize that the stupid stuff you just said makes ALL ANARCHO-PUNK BANDS capitalists ? Just look at how many anarcho-punk bands are on facebook and sell t-shirts to survive... So this makes them all anarcho-capitalists ? No. Everyone can't be wrong. YOU ARE.

    So Protspecd you are comming out of the closet ? You're an anarcho-capitalist now ? I wonder what you are doing on this forum.

    The "who are we" text clearly state that we are against anarcho-capitalism and liberal economics, we do not support this bullshit.

    BTW, Protspecd is also on facebook.

    Note: the decision to be on facebook was decided by the members. Also, we are more of a nuisance to facebook than we are helping them, since we are driving members away from their website.
     
  8. raindeer667

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    i really like to refer to the crass swedish interview, relating to putting out music through crass record sales for bands who probably just started out diy, all of which was not for profit.
    I dont got much to say on anarcho-capitalism because im not interested in that, but as for food production I guess when I would be at the point of gaing a surplus what would I do with that? of course save some for seed, some for food, and some to trade or sell, hense to then acquire the equipment for further research, supplies, development of sustainability, Improve the log cabin, divide the pay amongst workers, etc..
    So I see the t-shirts as ART, and a person can sell her/his art. APN does cost in the present internet circumstance and the store makes perfect sense to support this site.
    it's very simple.
     
  9. ungovernable

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    if we were anarcho-capitalist we wouldnt encourage free music sharing, instead we would make a website to pay for music like itunes or some bullshit like that

    seriously, saying a website against the music business and preaching free sharing of the music is anarcho-capitalist is the worst joke i ever heard on this website.

    Protspecd is becomming worse and worse..
     
  10. dwtcos

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    this just in, ungovernable has shit a brick.
    prospectd, thats a pretty lame argument. thats like saying no one who is against capitalism should get a job or perform a service for the sake of getting some food. the sites just trying to stay afloat.
     
  11. Anxiety69

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    apparently the all-mighty prospected once again is a better anarchist then the rest of us. Why don't u join sarah saturday and start a cult?
     
  12. butcher

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  13. ungovernable

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    Wtf? the new trend on this forum is to quote me in he signature ? lol
     
  14. Protspecd

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    Lmao butcher

    The fact that I put this in the entertainment and off topic discussion board should have been the first give away.

    Ungovernable, me being on facebook should have been another give away. You even nailed it right on the head, "seriously, saying a website against the music business and preaching free sharing of the music is anarcho-capitalist is the worst joke i ever heard on this website."

    "Protspecd is becomming worse and worse.." I try =)

    "if we are such unbearable hypocrites....make good on your whiny little past threats and never come back." Oh no not this again lols. How many times does this come up and how many times is my question then left unanswered... Wow...

    "Protspecd once again our evil plans are foiled by your sheer genius" New signature imo =D
     
  15. ungovernable

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    So why did you post this ?

    Worst part is that you sound serious.
     
  16. Protspecd

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    I know, I have become a pro troll =P

    Why did I? I got bored late last night basically =P
     
  17. punkmar77

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    still not as funny as butcher.... :lmao:
     
  18. Protspecd

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    Agreed, the Jim Jones and the pimp pictures made me burst out laughing
     
  19. JesusCrust

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    Good save.
     
  20. Anxiety69

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    Wow, i am flattered you think so much of me to quote me in your signature. Too bad the feeling is not mutual.
     
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