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The Oppressed - Fight For Your Life(The Best of The Oppressed) - 1996 (U,K)

Discussion in 'Non-punk anarchist music' started by Bentheanarchist, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. Bentheanarchist

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    1. Victums
    2. Work Together
    3. Run from You
    4. Joe Hawkins
    5. Don't Look Back
    6. Urban Soldiers
    7. Magistrate
    8. Ultra Violence
    9. Gun Law
    10. Riot
    11. Government
    12. Fight for Your Life
    13. Leave Me Alone
    14. Skinhead Girl
    15. Evil
    16. We Can Do Anything
    17. Skinheads in Sapress
    18. Hurry up Harry
    19. Substitute
    20. Nazi Nightmare
    21. B-N-P (Full of Shit)
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    RECORD INFORMATION

    Fight For Your Life - The Best Of The Oppressed
    Release Date : 1996
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    The Oppressed Biography

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    One of the first skinhead bands in Europe with strong anti-fascist message coming from Cardiff, Wales, UK. Start in 1981, splitt in 1984. Then reformed in 1994.

    Band members: Roddy Moreno, Ducky (3), Lee Jenkins, Tony Kizmus, Paul Cobley
    Band ex-members: , Dom Moreno, Adrian Moreno, Steve Floyd (2)
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    Welsh punk band The Oppressed began their infamous career in the early 80s as an outlet for Roddy Moreno, an outspoken advocate for racial unity in the skinhead and Oi! scenes. He formed "Oi! Records", a short-lived but highly influential label that served as the outlet for the Oppressed's music. They performed throughout the 80s, but as time wore on Moreno became far more involved in S.H.A.R.P. (Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice) and eventually disbanded the group. Later The Opressed inspired bands such as: Strawman, Los Fastidios or Stage Bottles.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Oppressed-sharp-attitude/108930239188615
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oppressed
    https://myspace.com/oitheoppressedoi
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/269917

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    Disclaimer: this biography was gathered automatically through an external music database and could be inaccurate. We don't control the information found here.


    Label - Dojo Limited

    Record label and company (copyright owner) associated with the label l2065, operating from the 17th Sep 1990. (Dissolved 6th April 2010)


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  2. aint ashamed

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    Another band I love to death. I checked out the download link, just to see if it worked, sadly
    it doesn't. I have all their stuff myself, but wanted to do a shout out for these guys, especially
    if link was still good. Free downloads are available elsewhere, but not easy to find because
    standard search engines are filtering them out, as well the ongoing campaign to shut down
    free music downloads. I only have one critique of THE OPPRESSED, They use a fucking drum machine on some of their songs, thankfully only some. aint ashamed
     
  3. The Hat

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    Yeah, shame the link doesn't work. The Oppressed was one of the better, more intelligent Oi! bands out there. I've got Oi1 Oi! Music, and a singles comp. Definitely worth searching for. Almost as good as The Angelic Upstarts. (Let's face it, NOBODY can hold a candle to The Angelic Upstarts)
     
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  4. aint ashamed

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    Yes you make a compelling case, especially with songs like_THE MURDER OF LIDDLE TOWERS! Great bands both! aint ashamed
     
  5. 1xAntifa

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    Check out Bandcamp, you get the lot for a nominal sum.
     
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  6. 1xAntifa

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    WTF are the 4-Skins doing here as a recommended band similar to the Upstarts and Oppressed? They were racist dickheads.
     
  7. The Hat

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    Great song, but I always liked the flipside Police Oppression slightly better.
     
  8. The Hat

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    I think the recommendation is up there simply as a musical comparison. If The 4 Skins really ARE racist, then I can understand your being upset, as that would be akin to comparing Angelic Upstarts music and The Oppressed's music to Skrewdriver, who made no bones about their politics.

    I've always been curious about The 4 Skins and why people think they're racist. I'll be the first to admit my ignorance on this subject, but I've been a fan of The 4 Skins since I was a teenager, and I've never seen anything racist in their lyrics or actions. I know people have interpreted the song "One Law for Them" as a re-writing of a very racist speech by Enoch Powell, where he actually used that term, but I always thought (And perhaps rather naively) that it was a song about class struggle, not about race relations. Also they were included on quite a few Oi! comps in the early 80s, and Gary Bushell, along with Gary Johnson wanted nothing to do with The National Front, BNP, EDL, et al. Also they were never aligned with the whole R.A.C. crowd. Some of those comps also included The Angelic Upstarts who were outspokenly anti racist, so this gets rather confusing for me.

    If anybody can provide any proof or evidence that The 4 Skins really were racist (Other than using Enoch Powell's "One Law For Them" speech for an example) I would be appreciative,as I have yet to be shown any concrete evidence as of yet.

    Please understand, I'm not being critical, I'm merely asking for proof.
     
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  9. 1xAntifa

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    Their first manager was associated with the national front, Hodges doesn't like "paki's" and one of their guitarists went on to play in Skewdriver, a white power band. Audiences at their gigs had a large component of national front racist skinheads. Their 1st single One Law for Them could be interpreted as a dog whistle for anti-Asian immigration as well as class warfare. They toured with nazi/white power bands in the late noughties as well. One song on their 2010 reformation album was explicitly anti-immigrant. They have always been ardent nationalists/patriots. That alone puts them in the right on the political spectrum.

    The 4-Skins - Wikipedia
    Talk:The 4-Skins - Wikipedia
    Fuck the 4-skins! Boycott em'

    There was also a short doco on youtube about Mensi and his anti-fascist stance where he goes into the effects of racism and the national front on Oi, that's worth a look if you can find it. It dates from the late 80's, early 90's and was about 1/2 hour long from memory. I found it by searching for antifa and anti-fascist.

    I had a best of CD in the 90's. When I first heard One Law, I also interpreted it as being about class war, but then I heard about the national front connection and could see it as a dog whistle. That put them in the suspect category for me. But touring with known nazi/white power bands settled it in my eyes. The 4-Skins were/are a racist outfit, even if they decry being nazi's. Not all racists are nazi.

    Hope this helps clarifying things for you.
    And no criticism taken.
     
  10. aint ashamed

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    Good point about Bandcamp. I believe they actually see to it, that the band shares in
    the proceeds. I've spent thousands on music over the years, and still do somewhat. When
    the download thing came on the scene, I saw all this stuff available, that I had just paid a
    shit load for. Being a certified music addict, I was doomed to that temptress. As addicts do,
    (music only), they delude themselves, and seek to justify their actions. That being said,
    here goes the reasoning_most everything I buy is used, out of print, or rare vinyl, (3-5 hundred
    copies type). So I figured the actual performers of said music never saw a dime of my
    purchases. The clincher thou, was finding things available for download, that I couldn't
    find to buy at any price.
    The take-away here, is, if you know the bands will get their cut, then I will be more
    mindful of that in the future. Especially when I claim to love the band to death, right!
    aint ashamed
     
  11. The Hat

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    This is really very sad. First of all, thank you for posting the links. Now I have a better understanding about why people are saying they're racist. I was especially shocked to hear that the guitar player went on and joined Skrewdriver after The 4 Skins broke up. I was also sad to hear that Hodges is prejudiced towards Pakis. I didn't know that their first manager was part of NF. They put out some great music, and they were a large part of the soundtrack of my youth, So I don't quite know what to do, or how to take it.

    On the other hand, I was taken aback years ago when I learned that Suggsy and one or two other members of Madness were roadies for Skrewdriver before forming Madness. I still can't understand why they would go and form a Ska band after that.

    You can't really blame a band for their followers, unless the band itself actually encourages them. I suppose knowledge of where they stood politically could be seen as indirect encouragement, but, on the other hand, there are a lot of racist boneheads in my country who are heavy metal fans. You wouldn't believe how many people I run across with Iron Cross patches at shows. It's equally disheartening to come across these people at Black Sabbath concerts. (OK, I know the band broke up, but the one time I saw them, they were all over the place, and had no qualms about dropping the "N Bomb" in casual conversation)

    I also understand the The 4 Skins reformed, put out a new album and one of the songs has very blatant anti immigration sentiments. Again, very sad.

    What bands did they tour with that were outspokenly nazis/white power?

    No, not all racists are nazis, nor do they belong to any organizations, but it's still sad that they're so ignorant.

    There's still plenty of S*H*A*R*P*/R*A*S*H* Oi! out there for people to listen to and enjoy, but reading these wiki links makes me sad indeed.
     
  12. Red Menace

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    Suggs was actually roommates with Ian Stuart from Skrewdriver way back. However all of that was long before Ian came out as a Nazi. So Suggs might not have been aware of any of that back then.
     
  13. The Hat

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    He must've known because the song "Don't Quote Me On That" was in response to an interview he gave to one of the British weekly music papers (I can't remember which one) where he talked about knowing people in NF and was friends with them, but asked for that part of the interview to not be used, but they used it anyway. I think the song was his way of distancing himself from the politics. Madness were still a good band, but I've always viewed them with a suspicious eye because of it.
     
  14. 1xAntifa

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    Madness were from memory all white and played pop ska. The Specials on the other hand were the real deal as were the other 2-Tone bands. That's my two bits worth.
     
  15. The Hat

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    Right on both counts.
    Funny enough, the only song by Madness that got any attention in the U.S. was Our House which was pretty far removed from their Ska sound, but people who were into punk and new wave in the late 70s/early 80s here knew One Step Beyond. Also interesting enough is that Baggy Trousers got co-opted in the mid 80s, and was licensed, with some lyric changes, for a (Get this) a TOOTH PASTE TELEVISION ADVERT! (I think it was Colgate, but I can't remember. There might be a video on You Tube, though)

    I also found it a bit odd, when I thought about it in later years how Madness would attract an almost all white mostly skinhead crowd with a few odd mods and rude boys, while The Specials, and most bands on the Two Tone label seemed to welcome any music lover with open arms, no matter what youth sub culture they nailed their flag to. (Still enjoy the first two albums and early singles by Madness, though)