The Lack of Political Discussion on This Site

so true, unfortunately i believe that even among self proclaimed anarchists there is a lack of interest in the world outside of their social circles and personal interests, just like the majority of society. because of the apathy (which i can fall victim to but try not to) and lack of interests in politics and social issues i feel the only people that care enough to use their voice and power for change are the ones supporting the system and taking away human rights. as far as no discussions on this site that is a good question. i unfortunately feel this is because more "punks" or anarchists are more interested in the sound of the music and the look of the scene than what the artist is saying or what the message is. i find it hard to find people who listen and look into lyrical content. thanks for the heads up on that news site ill look into it.

 

As Austerity has killed thousands in the UK & Social Cleansing is an excepted policy here. I find it difficult to be anything but fuken angry.. Class War AGAINST the Poor has never been so prevalent in my lifetime.. This to me is TRUE FASCISM...

 

Recently I had a union agitator and democratic operative contact me out of the blue after at least 6 years of not seeing this person face to face. He wanted to know if I would help him persuade Democratic Party leaders that Antifa are worth backing up and not "criminal terrorists". He invited me for beers after work, I think he saw me fighting nazis on the news recently so he was a bit 'overenthusiastic'. He wanted me to speak for Antifa. I explained that first of all that would betray everything I stand for, second of all you can't outlaw an 'organization' that is as structured as water, there is no organization, and there are no leaders, and there is no way of identifying Antifa, not in a legal sense of the word anyway. My point is compañer@s, If we're at the point where we are having to justify our existence to liberals in order not to be considered a 'terrorist organization' then I say fuck it, it's bad enough having to deal with multitudes of murderous supremacists without having to have eyes in the back of our heads for that knife in the back. Liberalism Is the enabler of white supremacy. I see very dark days ahead for all of us, this is a multiple fronted war.

 

It all starts at the queue to the FOOD BANK....

 

I have no confidence that the establishment will budge they will have to be forced. They outgun us. We outnumber them. It's gonna be bad. But we will never lose.

 

Liberalism is the enabler of white supremacy!? Ahh, explain please. aint ashamed

 

....And when the fascists come to power, don't tell me you aint been warned......
U.K. Subs-Postcard From L.A.

 

I'll keep it short and sweet.

1- Liberals notions of free speech give space for the grubs to air their opinions and propaganda, they cannot grasp that hate speech ain't free speech

2- Liberal notions of balance give them oxygen to breathe in the so called marketplace of ideas

3- Liberal media give them airtime and spaces within which to disseminate their repulsive ideas to a wider audience.

4= Liberals always side with capitalism, anti-fascism is a phenomena of the left which is itself to some degree or other anti-capitalist.

5- White supremacist, anti immigrant and anti asylum seeker ideology has penetrated the more conservative side of liberalism. This is under the guise of national security which the left wing of liberalism is also complicit in.

I am talking of liberalism in the wider sense of Locke, Mill, and Rawls thus both the Republicans and Democrats are liberals. If you are using liberal to mean solely democrat, then I think you are making a grave mistake. Hence what appears to be your misunderstanding. Don't forget that Clinton brought in the three strikes thing that has disproportionately impacted Afro-American and Latinx people, and Obama happily continued drone attacks on brown people across the globe. Both of which heartened white supremacists no doubt.

Thats my understanding of the issue. Hope it helps.

 

Very good, Thank you! I do get everything you stated, and essentially always have. I'm just
not use to the broad stroke application of the word liberalism. With the current news cycle the
way it is, political labels are flying in our faces fast and furious. I would suggest finding creative
ways to convey our views, that would be less likely to be misunderstood. Thanks again!
aint ashamed

 

you're welcome. Glad it helped.

 

Honestly AA, not here to pander, I've had a multiplicity of bad experiences with liberals, if this offends you I don't know what to tell you, liberals are still in bed with neo-liberalism and capitalism as a whole, in general they don't care for anarchists and really have very little understanding or empathy of what we stand for.

 

if you want news, the main anarchist hub for usa and canada is It's Going Down - Anarchist News and Counter-Information,

 

We are good brother! I needed some additional enlightenment, on what constituted being a
liberal, and liberalism. If we talk about fascists, and fascism, that is pretty much universally
understood. I think liberal / liberalism is murkier, less clearly defined, and for me not being
as all inclusive in my thinking as I should have been, as well as the fine points you, and our
brother from Australia (1xAntifa) made. Thank you again! aint ashamed

 

I love Charlie Harper and the U.K. Subs, too. Check out the video - Punk Can Take It!
It has some corny skits and narration, but the live footage of the band performing is
PHENOMENAL ! aint ashamed

 

I own the DVD, but yes, it's a great film. Quite funny, and the early videos of The U.K. Subs in concert are not to be missed. I've met Charlie Harper on more than one occasion, and he is one of the nicest, friendliest, down to earth person you could ever hope to meet, and have a beer with.

 

Wow, how cool is that, having a frosty brew with the great Charlie Harper! Wish I could
have joined you boys! Love the song_Sensitive Boys_ by The Subs. aint ashamed