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The Exploited & Nazis: They Really Are Friends!

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by ungovernable, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. JesusCrust

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  2. ungovernable

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    Posted the link earlier, but you ignored my argument.

    It's in this interview, where he also admit to wear swastika t-shirt

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ELMlJ5bvU2s/R ... ge+071.jpg

    "Look, I hate most Pakis but I like Jamaicans. I hate a lot of white people, in fact I hate more whites than Pakis so I'm not really racist."
    - Wattie

    But hey, i'm a keyboard warrior and i don't have a life because i found that.

    Man i know more about your band that you know yourself, what a shame. I need to explain you what you guys did and what your singer said. Omg.


    Like i said : already done.

    Now ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTIONS and stop dodging like a coward.

    And no it's not only "MY" questions, we are hundreds of peoples disgusted by your band's attitude and who want answers. Take a look at this:

    http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=23783
    http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=3867
    http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=7086
    http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=5572
    Last topic was deleted but had over 200 pages of debates with hundreds of peoples who WANT AN ANSWER that you are too lazy to provide because you've got no argument to defend yourself.

    Oh so you've read it on the internet ? hahahaha i thought it didnt mean anything ? And AGAIN you contradic yourself

    Look, i don't have anything to prove you, my comrades know who i am and what i do. Let's just say that i am an activist before being a punk and i am way more involved in activism than the punk scene (which i am also involved with). And i don't need to brag about it to have a credibility.

    BTW, outside of your shitty grey zone band, what do you do ? Beside talking about "total chaos" and destroying everything did you ever do something for the cause ? When is the last time that you have donated money to a cause ? Did you ever go to a protest in your whole life ? Doubt so.
     
  3. skullfokker

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  4. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    That's all you can come up with now ?

    So what can you say now that you're faced with the truth : Wattie, your lead singer is being racist against "pakis"

    According to YOUR OWN WORDS, this is racism:
    So according to Wullie, The Exploited's singer is a racist using "very offensive terms".

    Glad to see that we agree on something now.
     
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  8. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Man your lyrics say "chaos" and "disorder" about like 50 times... Even in this interview i posted Wattie says he want "total chaos"

    You are spending your birthday night on the internet bragging about your band and insulting people, and then you pretend that I AM THE ONE who doesn't have a life ? Come on man, you're pathetic. I'll return your words and tell you to get a girlfriend and go outside, it's your birthday and you're wasting it on the internet.


    So once again you are dodging arguments and failing to answer :

    What is your opinion on wattie's racism bashing against pakis ? You said yourself that you consider it as racism and very offensive. What do you think about it when it comes from your brother's mouth ?





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  10. ungovernable

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    Thanks for failing to answer the questions



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    I could add many other questions, for example why do you use anti-semitic insults against a doctor on the pocket of one of your albums, but as usually you will ignore all arguments.
     
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  12. ungovernable

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    Yes you have a lot of questions to answer, you keep ignoring them.

    I'm giving up with you now. There's no point in wasting more time with someone who refuse to answer my question.

    You had the opportunity to defend yourself and clear things up, give your point of view, etc... But you failed. Instead, you have chosen to ignore the questions and insult everybody. You just proved everybody that we are right and that you are idiots. Our opinion is now even worse than before you came on this forum. This whole discussion is already on french forums and your reputation is even worse now. You failed.


    The only thing you could come up with is "we don't inform ourselves who we play with" and that's why you end up sharing the stage with RAC and nazi bands. I can't believe you pretend to be anarchist and anti-racist. Any real anarchist or anti-racist band would have protested and cancelled the show if they were booked with a RAC band like Légitime Violence in Quebec. And any decent anarchist or anti-racist band would have refused to play with HAGGIS, a band promoting nazism. "Not knowning" is not an excuse. It is YOUR duty to inform yourself who you play with, ESPECIALLY if you claim to be anti-racist. It just proves how stupid and mindless The Exploited are.
     
  13. skullfokker

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    no we dont just because you think someting about us doesnt make it real
    we have played a million gigs in 30 years and yes we havent checked who we are playing with,the night we got attacked by cowards in madrid we were playing with a lot of good antifa bands but hey guess what we didnt check who we were playing with that night either,why? because unlike you we dont feel the need too .i dont look under my bed at night before going to sleep to see if a nazi or a sexist pig is under my bed? why? because usually it doesnt come in to my life,i usually worry how im gonna pay my bills my rent my next meals coming from .dont persecute us because we are not you and we are most certainly not nazis. im sure you will post some fantastic reply to this shooting down and twisting everything i say..well good for you mate
    im off now and wont be back,which is a shame but you are not interested in anything but how you perceive us and how you! view your world , and now this is in french forums , well good .we are playing a gig in france on friday so im sure everyone will be shouting your name and hating us.....i think not ! nite nite x . plz reply maybe we can make page 7
     
  14. ungovernable

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    Most of the questions i have asked are based on FACTS.

    For example i am talking about racist, anti-semitic, sexist and homophobic insults (A FACT). I am also talking about your band encouraging mindless violence (A FACT - you're even talking about in your bio). I am also talking about paki-bashing (A FACT - i proven it with the interview i posted). I am also talking about wattie's nazi tattoo and his swastika t-shirts (A PROVEN FACT). And many many other things like that. You chosen to ignore my arguments and failed to answer me like the coward you are.

    That's why you end up playing with nazis and RAC bands. Don't be surprised to be in the situation you are today.

    So you don't feel the need to check if you're playing with nazis bands. Understood.
    STOP PRETENDING TO BE ANTI-RACIST THEN !!!!

    I was interessed in your answer yo my questions, but you failed to provide it. Now i understand why people prefer to assault you with crowbars rather than wasting their time talking with a jackass who refuse to answer their questions.

    Yep it's already on the most popular french punk forum. You're hated in france like nowhere else. But your band is so famous that you will always find enough ignorant punks to fill the crowd - i don't care. At least the real punks know what you're all about.

    BTW, last debates about exploited fence sitting on that forum made over 300 pages. Too bad you don't speak french, i would love that you see how much you are hated. But even after that, i was willing to give your point of view if you answered my questions - but you keep dodging the facts






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    It's so funny how Wattie is a racist using "very offensive insults" according to your own definition
     
  15. skullfokker

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    cant say ive noticed xx
    personaly ive always liked the french and have many french friends (none who i think are fascists or nazis) but then again i didnt ask them
    well youre welcome to your shallow blinkered self righteous point of view
    i would say its been a pleasure talking with you but really its not been much of a conversation . i was hopeing i could get in the last word but im sure you will come back and get the last word in with some oh so fantastic witty comment on how im a retard and rascist and youre so right and self righteouse and maybe be the anarcho punk god hero of quebec. then again maybe not eh?
     
  16. ungovernable

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    Hey i thought you wouldn't come back ? Why don't you just get the fuck out ? You're too lazy coward to answer my questions. Stop wasting my time

    Obviously it's not the punks who realised how stupid and fencewalker your band is who will come to your shows. Not surprising that you didn't notice.

    Maybe you should ask yourselves WHY punks from all over the world say that your band is grey zone. Why you and why not another band ? Maybe you did something to deserve it ? Maybe there's reason why we are questionning ourselves ? Or maybe you just think that punks from all over the world woke up one day and said "hey let's make a conspiracy and hate one of the most famous punk bands"... There was even a protest in south america when you played a show (see picture)... There must be a reason don't you think ?

    Also, ever wondered why most of the anarcho-punk bands refuse to play with you ?

    It was not a conversation since you ignore ALL arguments i bring up, you refuse to answer ALL of my questions and when i bring up FACTS you just IGNORE them and DODGE the argument like a coward.
     
  17. JesusCrust

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    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
     
  18. ungovernable

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    BTW, you think it's offensive to use the word "paki" but you don't think it's offensive to have a nazi tattoo and wear swastika t-shirt like wattie is doing... You also think doing "zieg heil" for fun and acting like a nazi is tolerable, but using the word "paki" is worse.... Not sure if i get your point..... Are you sure that you don't take meth ? Because you are very illogical.
     
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    ffs lock the thread already
     
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    This is recent, and making the rounds online. You're fucking garbage Wattie, you'll take a picture with anyone supplying you with meth won't ya
     
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