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Thailand Riots

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by pezPwnage, May 16, 2010.

  1. pezPwnage

    pezPwnageActive Member Forum Member


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    What do you guys have to say about the riots and protests in thailand? some pretty serious shit is going on there, there saying that a curfew will be created, and the army are using tear gas and rubber bullets as well. I think now their are at least 30 people have been killed and more than 200 injured. The red shirt anti government protestors have blocked most off the main roads and shopping malls and have destroyed many army vehicles. My grandfather currently lives in bangkok and says that its like a civil war. This was posted a couple of days ago http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ngkok.html . and this not long ago http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... wD9FNQ0LO0 :ecouteurs:
     

  2. ungovernable

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    Thailand has been unsable since like 20 years, there is long to say about this country, but the situation is really unstable... 20 coup d'etats since the abolition of monarchy (around 1932) and it's not the first time that there are riots this year. In april there was a lot of riots, but now i agree it's really starting to look like a civil war. There are a lot of tensions between groups of peoples and also between the government and the peoples..

    The government suspended the elections, the army is used (again) against the thailand people, the parlement is occupied, the tourists are scared but can't leave thailand, etc...
     
  3. pezPwnage

    pezPwnageActive Member Forum Member


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    It was bound to happen sooner or later, especially since the millitary coup. "since the abolition of monarchy (around 1932)" Im pretty sure thailand is still partly ruled by a monarchy and the king is considered a very important figure (I have been to thailand several times and there are pictures of him everywhere).
     
  4. ungovernable

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    Yes the king is still considered very important figure, the last new i heard from the riots the thais were asking the king to make an intervention to stop the riots... Since the parliment was occupied and the government failed over and over to calm the situation (they even cancelled the elections) it looks like the king is the last one that can do something and that the peoples might listen to...
     
  5. pezPwnage

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    The protestors (red shirts, National United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship) have been urging him but if he did it would most likey turn the millitary (who is now basically the government) against him and he would loose power and the king is against the red shirts beliefs as well, because the red shirts believe in returning exiled PM Thaksin to power has been accused of being corrupt (and probably is considering his background as a business man before coming to power). Basically as usual its the millitary, government and the rich who are the evil and the poor the victims who are standing up to the government (which in a way is kind of good) even though they are supporting a corrupt opposition party. The yellow shirts another party are the ones who want democracy as well but are against Thaksin and the ones who support the king and also the current government (the army).
     
  6. ungovernable

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    yup. exactly ;)
     
  7. pezPwnage

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    :). hopefully shit gets better there so i can go back. o_O
     
  8. ungovernable

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    hopefully it ends up with a revolution and anarchism, but i doubt it...
     
  9. pezPwnage

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    that would be great, the revolution is already happening but as you said as well i doubt it because they are protesting for democracy *sighh* :/
     
  10. Kobac

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    i hear about thailand riots every day on television.i heard that army has captured main camp of protesters yesterday and that leaders of red-shirts surrended but riots will go on
     
  11. butcher

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    From what I've seen (which is, admittedly not much), the encampment of the Redshirts was evicted by the Army today, although many of the key leaders had fled before this time (although some have been caught). The media is reporting 5 dead in this military operation.
    Since these events, there has been a number of sporadic events occurring, including the firebombing of a National TV channel and clashes between protesters and the police & army at points outside of the initial encampment.
     
  12. pezPwnage

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    really? That must've been when the army stormed and attacked the barracks. the whole thing there is geting really out of hand, I don't think the red shirts are going to stop until they have achieved what they want which probably wont happen because of the totally fucked up government situation there. If this continues the army/government might end up with alot more blood on their hands. :/
     
  13. pezPwnage

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    They've blocked off all the shoping malls aswell it doesnt suprise me that they firebombed it, they have been holding it for a couple of days now. Do you know whats become of them after they were evicted? probably still there protesting..
     
  14. rude-boy

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    hmm this is yet another straw placed on the camels back. along with greece at the place near kazakstan and all the others. people breaking points are being tested. countdown clock is ticking till the hour of revolution
     
  15. pezPwnage

    pezPwnageActive Member Forum Member


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    Are u talking about the anarchist demonstration in which 3 or more people were killed or something?
     
  16. butcher

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    here's some sauces y'all may find helpful...
    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1260587/No-respite-in-Bangkok-bedlam

    http://www.prachatai.org/english/

    http://blockmeifyoucan.blogspot.com/

    http://twitter.com/wanderinghew/thailand-protests

    further, Australia Asia Worker Links has released a statement, and holding a solidarity action in Melburn this thursday May 20th,
    details and the statement here:
    http://aawl.org.au/

    'Coincidentally', it would appear that a lot of interwebz communication tools just happen to have gone down at the moment. I'm reading reports that Facebook is down, as are other tools.
     
  17. rude-boy

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    that is just one time. there have been clashes with the riot cops and military for what a bit more then 2 months? there were even times where the army was forcd to abandon several tanks while retreting in runn run. watch the stimulatore video (how to overthrow the goverment)

    its more then some anarchists demonstating. its a people fighting for what they think is right. they are sick of the people in power. they demanded change and the respons they got was. NO they guy refused to give u power of "his" contie. and they were met by brutal force and even killing force.

    this is what happends when the power does not lisen to the people. civil war
     
  18. QueerPunk

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    Just as well I have already been there for holiday...


    Although when I was in Chiang Mai I did see a ute (pick-up truck) hurtling down a main street with a massive poster of Thaksin and blaring speakers...I looked at some mechanics who stopped to look at the ute and we shrugged shoulders and thought, ah well see what happens....this was in January this year and there was still a lot of talk about the dissent.
     
  19. saturninesky

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    I'm half Thai, so part of my family lives in Bangkok. (where the majority of the riots are taking place) The whole thing kind of gives me an unsettled feeling. (naturally, I suppose, I think most people would feel a little nervous if their family was in this situation.) Especially when I see pictures, since some of the places I remember standing in two years ago. (saw a pic of the same exact bank I went into with my mom and uncle, nearly catching fire.) pezPwnage is correct in saying the King is a very important figure. I swear, he's like Thai Jesus or something. My cousin took me to see a movie and before it started we all had to stand up for this like tribute thing they played. My mother gets Thai TV channels and they frequently play things like national songs and tributes to the king. Some books have been banned in Thailand for simply disagreeing with the king. Even if he disagrees with the red shirts I just hope he does/says/suggests something because I think he's the only person people will at least listen to. I don't really know what to say about the whole thing because I don't follow Thai politics, I'm sure my cousin can better explain what's happening, I just want it to end because I hate seeing this happen. (i'm pretty much a pacifist, so not exactly a fan of violence.)
     
  20. nodz

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    Somebody was talking about this the other day. Is it true that the current level of unrest has something to do with the royal family as far back as 1932? Or was I only half listening and got it wrong?

    I saw a report from an Australian journalist the other day and that journalist was saying the situation it quite weird. In one particular area there is an extreme amount of violence with bombs/explosions/gun fire etc and he had to wear full combat gear (flack jacket, helmet etc) and you then go five minutes down the road and everyone is going on about there daily business and looking at him strangely for wearing all his combat gear, and looking at him as though there is nothing going on at all.
     
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