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Superior/Inferior race

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Anarcho-Communist, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. Anarcho-Communist

    Anarcho-CommunistMember Forum Member


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    I have been thinking about whether or not i believe that there are inferior and superior races and if you look at history it is hard to believe that there aren't now i am by no means a racist, infact i am very anti-racism, but i also consider myself a realist a i love history so when i study it it is hard for me to not think that there are infact inferior races.
    What are your thoughts on this subject?
     

  2. Jotunbane

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    The fact that you can even think it makes YOU an inferior race.
    There is no "them & us". There is only us.

    This (in my little insignificant view) just proves that... Socialism, Communism, Capitalism and Fascism is basically the same thing.

    The minute communist get some real power, they are impossible to distinguish from fascist (look at China and USSR, REALLY look, and tell me where that is different from Fascist Germany).

    If you can't see that I for one feel sorry for you (and glad that you are far away from me).

    There, my thoughts on this subject.
     
  3. Anarcho-Communist

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    it that yours is the same ignorant view of Communism as the capitalist brainwashed massses countries like China and the USSR are infact very similar to fascist states, however that is NOT what communism is, read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Mark THAT is true communism the classless utopia, however unfortunately like all political systems it is vulnerable to corruption and on my views off the Inferior/Superior race, i believe that in history there has certainly been an Aryan dominance off almost EVERYTHING now whether or not this makes them, Superior is what i was hoping to find out in this thread but you would rather attack me for being an Anarcho-Communist?
     
  4. BlinkoChrist

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    I get what your trying to say I think....meaning throughout history white man has killed everyone and conquered right?
     
  5. punkmar77

    punkmar77Administrator Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    Are you fuckin' serious? You must be kidding right? You believe that in history there has been Aryan dominance of almost everything? Including dominance of my nuts...You call yourself an Anarcho-Communist and believe in the fairy-tale of Aryan's? Get your head out of your ass before you try and post anything else please.....oh and let me guess? you consider yourself to be aryan right?

    this is you... :ecouteurs:
     
  6. Anxiety69

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    if i say "I hate all races equally" does that make me a racist? :lmao:
     
  7. punkmar77

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    Nah padner, just a playa hater
    :lmao:
     
  8. Anarcho-Communist

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    Clearly you know nothing about history all through out history Europe has dominated the world, and to answer your question i'm actually of Indian descent.
     
  9. punkmar77

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    So your saying all europeans are Aryan? Like I said before get your head out of your Ass. You believe there are inferior races....Get your head out of your ass. As far as knowing my history...well I love to learn new things everyday and don't pretend to be a Scholar that can't even spell Karl Marx correctly... not that I'm a Grammer Nazi mind you. But when you start talking about Eugenics you play right into the hands of Supremacists and the belief that any race is superior is just fuckin' laughable.
     
  10. Anarcho-Communist

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    The European nations i was talking about are, not the Slavic Europeans of the East i was referring to dominant nations of the past and present such as Britain, France, Spain, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Portugal, Rome, Greece, USA those countries have all been the or one of the most dominant and successful countries in the world at some point and i'm sure you'll notice that they have for the most part been Aryan now once again since you all seem to think i am racist I AM NOT RACIST and am a realist and all of you seem to be in denial how can you honestly think that all races are equal when there has been European dominance for about 3000 years now.
     
  11. punkmar77

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    Your ignorance is overwhelming, again you use the word 'Aryan' when what you meen to say is Caucasian and if you didn't know it the Moors invaded and mixed with Spain, Portugal, and parts of Italy and France for over 750 years, before the conquest of the America's and Africa. All descendants of these conquering nations have African blood coursing through their veins thus most Latin Americans have traces of Moorish blood in them. There is no such thing as an Aryan. So stop trying to speak of Superior races and keep studying those books maybe you'll learn something besides supremacist rhetoric.
     
  12. Anarcho-Communist

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    o_O \m/ :beer: :beer: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :lmao: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :/ {pleure} :ecouteurs: :lmao: :rock: :D :beers: :lmao: <3 :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: ;) :p :o :ecouteurs: :| :'( :( :S :ecouteurs: :rock: :lmao: (H) :thumbsup: :ecouteurs: :@ :ecouteurs: :) :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs:
    No point in continuing this. you're not listening to me you're merely thinking what you want to think i am done with this board.
     
  13. punkmar77

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    WWWWHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'm taking my soccer ball and going home if I can't make up the rules!!!!!! Kick Rocks then.....Puto
     
  14. Anxiety69

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    Gee punkmar77,. don't u get it? white is right, all other races are insignificant and worthless. That includes jews like me. Hence the justification of the holocaust and all :p (and yes this is a sarcastic post)
     
  15. Rathryn

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    Mate of mine had a similar question for me about Africa. How come there is virtually no development there?
    Simple: because circumstance, culture and context play a huge role in the development of the human race and since it's so widespread these are different throughout the globe.
    Anyway... inferior/superior? Not at all.
    The only ubermensch (the original, not Hitler's interpretation) I can possible think of might've been the original Buddha, but that's it... And he's FAR from Aryan.
     
  16. Bananaman

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    The real ubermensch is too busy being the UFC light heavyweight champion to care...

    Science says more mixed the better, and I think history has proven this more than once...

    There are very very good reasons why Europeans managed to conquer Americas and later dominate most of the world. These have a lot to do with climate, biology, geography and such. Europeans for the most part were not superior to the rest of the world they just had better opportunity and what's more important the need to expand.

    Really the only case of people being at a disadvantage trough the history were the native Americans. Native Americans are descended from a very small group of people that crossed over from Siberia at the end of last ice age. This means that genetic variety among native Americans is very limited. In turn this greatly affected immunity of their populations, and their ability survive diseases brought by the europeans...
     
  17. ungovernable

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    What the fuck...

    first i don't even know how a self-proclamated "Anarcho-communist" would doubt of his visions of the "race concept"

    Differences between races ar eonly due to the social and economical context nothing else. Once again the problem is the same : CAPITALISM.

    There is no such this as inferior or superior race. There are richer or poorer races, but nothing related to superiority. There is no hierarchy of the races.

    We shouldn't base our jugement of equality based on the social and economicap context. We should define equality based on the EQUALITY OF CHANCES (check wikipedia).

    For example, take a lil children from africa with no studies and no money, and but it aside an american who just got out of university.
    The american have more money, a big house, cars, and a lot of studies. But based on the "equality of chances" he still is equal to the african kid, meaning the african kid would have the same percentage of chances to get where the american is, IF his social and economical situation allowed him to.

    So considering the only problem is the economy of the "non-white countries" is the economical situation, it would be very stupid and hypocritical for us to blame "other races" and call them "inferior races" for what WE are responsible for.
    After all, we are guilty of having like 75% of the global wealth while we are only 25% or so of the population. WE made the chose to be greedy and to not help the third world countries, WE are reponsible for choosing to exploit their ressources with shitty programs like the International Monetary Fund or the World Bank or their equivalent central/south african programs.
    If they have less than us, it's our fault not their's. So well, WE should blame ourselves for how "inferior" they are (i'm talking about economical and social inferiority, not race hierarchy)


    Anyway, just immagine the opposite. What do you think would happen if there was a worldwide aryan white-power revolution ? Think about it.... All the black peoples of the whole world would be murdered.... So far it's fine with the aryan ethics, but then, AFTER, what would happen?
    What do you think would happen after the 100% white aryans start to colonize old africa, and realize 100 years later that their skin became as black as the african's skin used to be ?? (not even talking they would be confronted by the same economical underdevlopment problem)

    Oh, and ask any good nationalist and he will tell you it's supposedly not about racism, it's about giving back the land to who owns it. This would suggest that immigrants should get out of France (just a random example) and that French territory should be given back to the native french peoples...

    Yeah right. But those fucking morons forgot that here in USA and Canada WE ARE THE FUCKING IMMIGRANTS, it's US who invaded the indians. WE are the invader, WE are the ennemy who illegaly occupe other's territory.
    The only nationalist/racist revolution that would make sense (if we can say it would make sense) would be a NATIVE INDIAN NATIONALIST REVOLUTION, after all it's THEIR territory, not the american's.

    This reminds of a cool cartoon i drew. There's a neo-nazi bonehead who tell a black people "it's not even your own country" and then suddently an indian comes and tell the bonehead "AND YOU, IS IT YOUR COUNTRY" ?
     
  18. ungovernable

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    Actually, globalized countries ARE faking to be trying to help the development of africa and other poor countries...

    But they're doing it with capitalist programs like the International monetary fund, the world bank and such.... Check on wikipedia to see how much it is a scam.

    Basically the american speech looks like this:

    - USA: Wow that's some nice oil you got here! In 100 years if you exploit all of it, you will be as rich as us!
    - Africa: Yeah but we can't extract our oil right now, and we need money NOW! Moreover, there's no money to invest because there's no employment
    - USA: Ohhh but we have solution to both our problems! Us the biggest capitalist nation of course we want to help poor countries, but we need to have an avantage!
    You have some nice oil but you are unable to extract it and you need jobs. How about we send our cool companies SHELL and EXXON MOBIL to exploit your oil ! Of course it's the american companies who get the contracts.
    We guarantee a lot of jobs for africans and some economical growth (and a lot of money for us). How to ask better?
    - Africa: Woah, thank you friendly yankees !
    - USA : Good, how about we send coca-cola to make drinks with african water now?

    The scam is simple : a short-term advantage for africans, and a long-terme BIG disavantage by losing all their "oil power" potential

    Not even talking how they borrow them money to grow their debt and such...
     
  19. Rathryn

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    I'm not talking about that, I was referring to pre-Industrial Revolution circumstances, but I could've pointed that out better.
    And I don't think we need to go to Africa to see the WMF and the WB at work...
     
  20. theoldpunk

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    I would recommend reading 'Guns, Germs And Steel' by Jared Diamond for a different perspective on the possible causes of Eurasian 'dominance'. It's academic without being too hard to follow, and the writing style helps. If you find it difficult to read long texts, there's a more accessible film-length documentary available (check the torrent networks).

    You may also want to start reading around the arguments for and against cultural relativism. In my opinion, much of the left (including some @s) falls into the trap of uncritically supporting a multi-cultural society because they fail to see that not all cultural values have equal worth or value. There's a really good essay on multi-culturalism, particularly in relation to working class and far-right / nationalist politics in the UK, here:

    http://www.iwca.info/?p=10146
     
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