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Steve Ignorant

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by ungovernable, Oct 3, 2009.

  1. deadrock98

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    Steve Ignorant and Last Supper

    I am just curious is anyone planning to go see Steve Ignorant when he comes to the states in March?
     
  2. A Better World

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    Re: Steve Ignorant and Last Supper

    No Crass died in 1984 the only band in my opinion that set out to do what they meant to do and did it
     
  3. JackNegativity

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    Re: Steve Ignorant and Last Supper

    I heard somewhere on here he's going to be charging a shitload of money to see him. I can only name a handful of Crass songs I like and none of his solo shit so fuck him either way.
     
  4. t-bag

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    $23 Man that is cheap as shit. Shows here from international bands are NEVER less then $40. Even local bands charge $15.
     
  5. ungovernable

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    Crass will be playing in quebec soon.... for 25 bucks

    here is my friend's ticket:
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    As you can see steve ignorant is clearly using CRASS name everywhere to fool people into believing it's a crass reformation. Everyone i talked to think it's crass playing.

    There is a couple of facebook events created by the promoters, it says CRASS will be playing, the event name is CRASS not steve ignorant.
     
  6. Stigma1984

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    Instead of spreading false rumours why not use your search engines to find Steves website and read the posts he has written in relation to the Last Supper tour and the US shows. He has clearly said all along that this is not Crass. He has told the US promoters not to advertise this as a Crass tour but they have done so anyway. He has never tried to fool anyone and has been totally honest about these shows from the start. The fact is this information is easily accessible online so why not read it before posting ill informed opinion as fact. If you read the facts and are still pissed of then fair enough.
     
  7. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    It's funny how everyone's acting like Crass are some HUGE rockstars...for almost any non-punk show $23 (or $25) would be cheap as shit, plus the venue's gotta profit too.
     
  8. vAsSiLy77

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    People who went to munichs last supper came back frustrated about the "crass-cover show" without a single new song, at least a conflict- or whatever else cover version... Too bad that reading his statements in the web doesn't help it...
     
  9. Anxiety69

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    when i saw Stratford Mercenaries back in 97, the tickets and all the ads said CRASS for that show as well...
     
  10. ungovernable

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    Oh look, another Steve Ignorant fanboy.
    So fucking what ? The facts are still that the venues is advertised as CRASS, if Steve can't even control his own promoter then it's his fucking problem, after all it's him who has control and it's him who has chosen those promoters. Do you seriously think that everyone who will go to the show will read Steve's website ?

    This is what happen when you become a sellout and you use businessmen as promoters : you can't control what happen.

    Dude they ARE rockstars, they write books about themselves, auto-biographies, movies, steve is still doing a cover-band of crass....

    $25 is definatly a fucking high price, you obviously don't know what you are talking about, here in quebec we often see bands from Europe playing for $10 and even $5 sometimes, and the bands are WAY smaller than crass.

    Steve ignorant could charge $5 for this show and he would still be making profit.
     
  11. JoeyV

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    We'll Im sure most people know The only original member is steve, but he uses the name crass. what do you want people to call it steve ignorant's band?

    what the fuck are you talking about black eyed peas for?
    I Finally get to see crass one of the biggest anarcho band out there and there charging $23.
    Plus where am I going to get 23 dollars from? my ass?
     
  12. vAsSiLy77

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    what about steve ignorant's crass revival band?!? :ecouteurs:
     
  13. ungovernable

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    Here in quebec, everyone i talked to think it is a crass reformation with all of the original members, like the name of the event refers to.

    Yes.

    The name is Steve Ignorant's last supper, not crass.

    You're not seeing crass, you're seeing steve ignorant doing covers.
     
  14. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?


    You obviously don't know how to read. I said for a NON-PUNK show $25 isn't that much for a show. Sure, for a punk band it IS expensive, but in the grand scheme of things, while it isn't necessarily on the low end, it isn't on the high end of concert prices by any means. As for Crass basically being rockstars, well you do have a good point there. Also, a smaller band is bound to put on a cheaper show anyways, so I don't see why you felt the need to point out that those bands with $5-$10 shows are smaller than Crass. And finally, I wasn't defending Crass, honestly beyond historical importance I don't care about Crass at all, and as I said before for a Punk band $23 is pretty expensive, I just found it funny how extreme some people's reaction is, even though said people are making a good point. That said, I imagine I'm probably able to acquire more money than a lot of posters on here, so with that in mind peoples reactions to this make more sense.
     
  15. JoeyV

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
     
  16. ungovernable

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    A ripoff is still a ripoff, if punk bands can do shows for $5 other bands of other genres also can. The only difference is that the punk movement has more social consciousness so it is harder to make a high-price show and still be acceptable

    The point is very easy to see:
    if a small band can make a show @ $5 with a public of less than 50 persons, then crass definatly can make a show for less than $25 with a public of multiple thousands of people, especially if they are on a tour.
     
  17. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    I actually agree with most of this, but that's just not the way shit is most of the time. The bigger a band gets the more likely they are to want more money, unfortunately, so while it is true that a bigger band could easily profit from putting on a $5 show, it's still very likely that they'll just want more...it's a similar kinda thing to corruption from power, really...personally when I have a band going I'd wanna just do shows for free, on a sidenote.
     
  18. Stigma1984

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    Ungovernable, grow up please ,this is not an AOL board and we are not children. The point i'm making is not about Ignorant or his tour it is about people giving their opinion without having bothered to find out the full story, the way the media does.
    The fact is indeed that 'the venues is advertised as CRASS' but I do not see how someone who is on a different continent on the other side of the Atlantic can 'control his own promoter'. If I were promoting a Jello Biafra solo tour in the UK It would be easy for me to flypost with the name Dead Kennedys in huge fucking letters without him finding out until it is too late. If you want to moan about it being a nostalgia tour then thats up to you but stop spreading your opinion as fact, that is just lying.
     
  19. punkmar77

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    I gotta say I think you have a good point but at the same time I think Steve has lost his way and doesn't really mind the confusion so much when it brings him extra money. So he probably isn't aggressively looking to dispel the 'Crass' promotions. Also I don't see how they can be considered covers if he helped write them and sang them originally, that's not a cover. And here is Henry Rollins with a very funny Diatribe on 'Selling Out'

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zVUvmkyvA[/video]
     
  20. ungovernable

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    Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

    I said you are a steve ignorant fanboy because you register here only to spread your anger because we bring up FACTS and you accuse me of lying, what a fucking joke.

    Listen, it's his fucking problem if the promoters are using crass name, EVERYWHERE i seen a steve ignorant show it was advertised as crass so obviously he doesn't care. No it's not too late, he could ask the promoters to change the name, he could post a notice on his website or his facebook about it, but obviously he doesn't care, because it's more publicity for him.

    HE chosen the promoters, and don't tell me that he doesn't have contact here, dude it's fucking Steve Ignorant from Southern Records, he can EASILY find some underground promoters around the anarchist community, peoples who aren't businessmen like the ones he chosen. How the fuck did you think that CRASS promoted their gigs and tours back in the time ? Why is it impossible to do the same today ?

    Just in Quebec there are a shitload of show bookers, it's fucking easy to find one, even if you don't know anybody here. I hear all the time from international bands who want to tour here but they need to find a show booker, you just have to ask it and you will find a decent promoter.... No need to pick a businessman to organize the whole tour

    If his promoters use crass name it's because he didn't put enough pressure on them or he just doesnt care.

    I don't care about it being a "nostalgia tour", he's just acting like a rockstar and he's a sellout, making people pay $25 to see a band that used to make shows for free or for like $5 and all the money went to charity. THE GREATEST WORKING CRASS RIP OFF.
     
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