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Sin City Newb

Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by silencekid, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. silencekid

    silencekidMember New Member


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    I'm a 35-year-old male from Las Vegas. I enjoy reading and listening to music. I read Anarcho Primitivist literature (among other things) and listen to Anarcho Punk and Crust (among other things). I spend a lot of time in front of the computer or yelling at the television, when I should be out having a life. Unfortunately I've been a hopeless nihilist most of my life, but I hope to turn that around.

    Favorite bands at the moment are Crass, Aus Rotten & Dystopia.... but I have rather diverse taste in music, liking some metal, electronic, folk, hip hop and psychedelic. It's just that Punk has recently floated to the top for me and I realized it's been with me since a very young age when I was listening to bands like JFA, Dead Kennedys, Cro-Mags, etc.

    I look forward to seeing you all around and hope to post more in the future as I learn the ropes. I'm about to go post in Music to see if there is anyone in the Vegas area who wants to start a band, so go check it out if interested.
     

  2. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    You are against technology and you spend most of your time using it, don't you see a big contradiction ? You believe in living in the nature with nothing but you spend your live in the middle of technology...

    Also music is made from technology.
     
  3. silencekid

    silencekidMember New Member


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    Yes, I see the contradiction. I use the internet everyday to communicate with people and get my point across. But if I woke up tomorrow and the internet were gone, I would be happy. I have certain goals, but I have not achieved mastery of life. If I want to communicate with others within the "matrix" and argue my points, then I have to do it partially on the matrix's terms.

    I live in this culture, but I did not create it. I would like to learn to be more self-sufficient in areas of survival, but at least I recognize my weaknesses, regret my weaknesses, and do not pretend to be perfect. You, on the other hand, want to continue on dependent upon a system of mechanized mass-production and believe the answers to everything lie in already tried and failed methods of social organization.

    I do not want to continue on the way it is now. I do not want to be the way I am now; I feel forced to do so. I want it to end. Logically speaking, I cannot see a continuation of modern civilization within a state of true anarchy. You cannot have the things that you want, the "luxuries" of modern civilization, without hierarchy. I truly believe that and that is the key point where we differ. I do not want these luxuries. I renounce them verbally, then try to whittle them out of my life. I want to lose my attachment to things and learn to live a more real existence, more connected to the primordial universe.

    You scoff at people from the past, as if you are somehow superior, but you are just brainwashed by your own culture to take certain "facts" for granted. You know, I don't want 1400 AD. I want 10,000 BC, 100,000 BC, 500,000 BC. Today you and I both own things we don't deserve to have, things we obtained at the expense of others whether we like it or not. This is built into us at present: a tradition thousands of years old, seemingly inescapable. You can't even look in your closet and see where you clothes are made without realizing your are supporting wage slavery, earth poisoning and brutal violence simultaneously.

    I think it is a real cop-out to criticize Anarcho-Primitivsts by saying, "OH BUT YOU ARE USING TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW," etc. etc. Yes, they publish books with a printing press and use the post office to mail them. Yes, they have web sites. Everyone is well aware of that. What do you expect them to do in order to share their ideas with people? Write a treatise and manifesto on a tree with a piece of charcoal from their campfire? Send smoke signals? What change would that bring to contemporary society through those means, when no one is on that wavelength anymore? It would go completely ignored. What those writers look forward to is the day when they do not have to publish a book or log on to the internet at all.

    I wish there were some other way, but I personally don't believe there is. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
  4. Protspecd

    ProtspecdExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I get what you are saying and I am glad you have a passionate view. Just out of curiosity, what is your view on modern day medicine? Technology has obviously evolved and now we are able to cure so many diseases and everyday we progress in protecting people from the most harshest diseases. Do you believe we should stop progressing on a medical side and have a world where if you get sick you are done for?

    Hopefully I don't offend but your view somewhat fascinates me. I am not knowledgeable on Anarcho-primitivism
     
  5. Vegetarian Barbarian

    Vegetarian BarbarianExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Alls it takes is a few atom bombs to put us back to 10,000 B.C., im just waiting. Or a global pandemic... some type of extinction of mankind.
     
  6. dwtcos

    dwtcosExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    The truth is that civilization bred most of the diseases we have been forced to cure in modern society.
     
  7. New Face In Hell

    New Face In HellExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Aww man, I thought this thread was going to be about the Sun City Girls. :p
     
  8. Ivanovich

    IvanovichExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Internet is built on capitalist infrastructure - you don't think this forum is bit of a contradiction too?