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Shutdown a Nazi Website

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by (Filipe), Dec 20, 2010.

  1. (Filipe)

    (Filipe)Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    hi , do some of you know how to shutdown a website , i've been trying to shutdown this site
    http://www(dot)nazi(dot)org/
    but i cant , if u can't do it , at least give me the programs , please

    thanks
     

  2. butcher

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    you may wanna break the link to the site, pingbacks and whatnot...
     
  3. disfuck

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    has anyone seen the website aryanwear.com that is a sickening website that also should be shut down , they have boots and the tread are swastikas so they leave a trail behind them
     
  4. JackNegativity

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    I've seen those boots. A pair of those would be a nice little trophy to take from a bonehead.

    Isn't nazi.org that so-called "nazi anarchist" site that the native american kid who shot up his school followed?
     
  5. ou818

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    Hey, say what you want about Nazis, at least they're creative.

    Anyway, you can't just shut down a site with a programme. You could attack them with a DDOS forever, but good luck finding enough people to help you with that. Or you could guess/crack an admin password. I hope you have a million years free. Or, you could try and legally take them down by proving they are doing something illegal, which to my knowledge, they are not.

    In any case, why do you want to do this? It's illegal, and it's hypocritical for apparent Anarachists to attempt to silence people based on their beliefs.
     
  6. ungovernable

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    There are thousands of nazi websites on the internet, welcome to reality....

    You can't shut them down unless you have good knowledge in hacking (sql injections, ddos, coding skills, etc) so don't even think about it.

    So far all you,re doing right now is helping them. Each link to a website help the website to get better rank in google search, so you are making publicity for them.

    Illegal ? Who cares. Most of the anarchists did illegal actions. Like Ricardo Flores Magon says, "the revolutionnary is an illegalist by excellence. The man whose actions always respect laws is only a well-domesticated animal"

    As for the other part, i think you don't understand anarchism. Anarchists DO want to silence hate speech, in the whole history anarchists always fought against racist propaganda, fascists, nazis, etc... There is no place for hate speech in an anarchist society, fuck their "freedom of speech".
     
  7. punkmar77

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    "Apparently" you have no idea what tradition anarchists carry with them, we fight Nazi's, period, as misguided as he might be about strategy his heart is in the right place which is much more than I can say for you, oh but wait I forgot that's how UK 'anarchists' get down, with tolerance for Nazi's and espousing right wing conspiracy theories :lmao:
     
  8. Jameson

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    Why would you want to shut that site down? WHERE ELSE COULD I GET PURE ARYAN SOAP!? I'll have to go back to using BROWN SOAP! OH FUCK!!!!
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Kefka

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    well actually there are scripts that you can run that will constantly DDOS a website. And while i may hate the shit that the nazi's spew, they do still have the freedom to say whatever retarded shit they want, if or not i smash them in the face is another story. but still i fully believe in freedom for all to say what they want but once they act on what they say then i will put my foot down, hate me if you want but thats what i believe, because once we start telling people what they can and cant say then what will stop people from telling us what we can and cant say?
     
  10. ungovernable

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    You don't understand how DDoS attacks work. You can't DDoS a website with a single computer. In order to launch a DDoS attack, you need an army of at least a thousand of infected computer (hardest part to achieve since you will have to spread viruses on the internet). Once you have your army of zombies computer, you send a command and order the computers to send a request to a specific website multiples time per second. So the website will receive like 10,000 requests per second. A few minutes later the website will be offline because 99% of the servers can't handle big traffic.

    Do you realize how hypocritical this sounds ?

    You say you believe in freedom of speech but if they use this supposedly "freedom of speech" you will smash them in the face. That's not tolerating freedom of speech.

    Of course everyone have the freedom to say whatever they want, it is impossible to put a tape on people's mouth. But if you threaten them to beat them up if they say something then thats not freedom of speech.... Actually the best way to control what people can't say is by threatening them to physically harm them... Saying they will still be able to use their freedom of speech and that you will "just have the freedom to beat them up" is just hypocritical

    Nazis are already telling people what they can and cant say.


    For the 348309548034058034th time : hate speech is not freedom of speech
     
  11. Anxiety69

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    Hey, the freedom of speech argument is not up for debate here, read the WHO WE ARE charter, we've already wasted enough time talking about this, search older threads. The bottom line is we at APN DO NOT believe in Freedom of Speech for fascists, racists, homophobes, etc. If you don't like that, don't let the virtual door hit you on the ass as you leave.
     
  12. Kefka

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    Not true, it would be more helpful if you had alot of zombie computers but you dont have to.

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    actually i said that they can say what they please but once they act on it is when i will react.
     
  13. ou818

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    No.
    There's a difference between 'fighting against' hate speech and threatening to kill/harm someone for their beliefs.
    ... I wouldn't want to spend time in Jail for taking down an obscure website that nobody cares about.

    HAHAHAHAHATHATWASFUNNY.

    Seriously, what 'Anarchists' are you talking about? Because I don't recall any Anarchist societies in which people were lynched for opposing beliefs.

    This isn't an anarchist society, it's a forum.
     
  14. punkmar77

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    Its a forum that has a charter, I suggest you read it or re-read it as may be the case.

    Fuck, you must be really young, or really dense, or both, read up on the Spanish Revolution and see what anarchists did to fascists there. Or read about present day Chile and see how anarchists deal with fascists there, or read about present day Russia and see how Nazi's are dealt with by anarchists there. You may choose to bury your head in the sand and be tolerant of beautiful and peaceful National Socialists, but its most likely because you have absolutely no experience dealing with them firsthand. And again if you don't agree with the forums charter you are more than welcome to move on.
     
  15. butcher

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    I'm kinda repeating punkmar here, but anarchists have , with a good deal of consistency, harmed and killed fascists, and its been for the best.
     
  16. ou818

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    That was a popular uprising against fascists. They did not impose anything on anyone, unlike what people here are condoning. On the same token, why aren't you mashing up Fascists right now? If you think that the Anarchist uprising was an act of agression, and you support that, then you should have no problem ending a few Neo Nazis.

    Are we talking about the same Anarchists that bomb buildings with innocent people in? Well if that's the type of Anarchists you want to ally yourself with, then cool.

    Man, you should do stand up, because you're such a funny guy.

    Unlike most of the British/American/French etc on this forum who deal with Fascist dictatorships all the time?

    I didn't, but thanks for the hint. Jerk.
     
  17. butcher

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    please show me evidence of Chilean anarchists harming anyone with their bombings (apart from the poor dude who blew himself up).
     
  18. punkmar77

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    How the fuck do you know that I haven't there zippy.....

    So I'm a funny jerk huh? :lmao:

    Just kick rocks....
     
  19. ou818

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    Well,there's a quite well known attack on a British embassy. Or Asel Luzzaraga who has unsuccessfully attempted to bomb various areas, such as a Drug store and a Justice ministry. Or the bomb that blew up an American airlines office. Of course, nobody WAS harmed in those instances, but that's not justification, and people could have easily died.


    Code:
    http://momento24.com/en/2010/09/16/recoleta-homemade-bomb-explodes-in-american-airlines-and-alitalia-offices/
    http://denverabc.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/chile-anarchist-arrested-in-connection-with-bombings/
    http://www.publicenemy.com/pb/viewtopic.php?t=39439&sid=61167d38499715ff11165340f9539c7f
    I don't. If you are however, then I don't think you're doing the right thing. I hope my opposing opinion doesn't mean you will kill me too.

    I'm sure you are many things, but those are the delightful qualities that you have shown me. Granted, I shouldn't have called you a jerk, but insinuating I should leave is simply not very nice. The allusion that 'my heart' isn't 'in the right place' is insulting too. If thinking that killing neo nazis is wrong, and more importantly totally unhelpful then sure, my heart is not in the right place. In fact, the issue of attacking Nazi.org with a DDOS is so trivial that it's laughable, and completely diverting time as well as effort from real issues, in which one could spend their time assisting. For example joining a union to help increase the abysmal minimum wage in countries. Or whatever. Point is, if you think dealing with National-socialism in the west is a big problem, then I don't know what to say to you bro.

    And as for the Russian Anarchists, and the bizarre allusion that British Anarchists engage in Right Wing conspiracy theorists: The former, I don't have great knowledge of other than them beating up skinheads at football games, and as for the latter, I can't say I know many British Anarchists and i've already been vocally (or at least in written form) opposed to that nonsense on this website.

    The difference between the Catalonian Anarchists who fought off Fascist oppressors (and even the anti-Pinochet Anarchists) and the people who bludgeon Neo-Nazis to death at football games and bomb civic buildings should be obvious. If you're using one to justify the other, then maybe you should consider joining the American Government or the church. That Rorschach-esque black and white thinking will get you far.
     
  20. punkmar77

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    Primeramente no soy tu pinche 'bro' pendejo, so take your condescending speech and put it where you think it's best, if neo Nazi's are being beat up....well I think that's fuckin' great, not a single tear shed for them here. As far as telling me my 'Rorchach-esque black and white thinking' should get me far in the American Government or church, well now whose the standup comedian. And I repeat if you don't like this forum's charter which does not accept hate-speech as free-speech then fuck off down the road, 'bro'. Please school me some more on the difference between Catalonian anarchists fighting fascists and me fighting murderous Minutemen and Klan members and White Aryan Resistance skinheads for the last 30 years, please ou818 with your vast 20 years of life experience school me some more.... :ecouteurs:
     
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