Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by thoreau_me_a_bone, Nov 6, 2009.
I like Rage. I like their songs and their sound.
I always felt a little too self conscious a about the history of white people ripping off the music of black people and making more money off of it to get into white people rapping.
Some would say they don't Rage Against The Money. But it could also be said that they spread subversive ideologies more widely tho. As for my view on their music I will say "No comment."
Zack De La Rocha is chicano/black.....and Tom Morello is of African descent as well...so yeah
sorry, guess i never paid much attention to them.
I don't think people realise how racist this opinion is. It follows that "whites" should only play White music and "blacks" should only play Black music. It's that bizarre preemptively politically correct that says it can't be racist to afford one race a privilege as long as you consider them downtrodden.
Nice point M8.
yep, and one best avoid rock n roll too...and didn't the Ramones just play Chuck Berry riffs? but maybe its better to say its 'separatist' rather than just 'racist'? But of course racism plays out within music too.
Chuck Berry rocks! \m/
Liked them in my young polliwog days, nowadays I find them quite snooze-inducing. Always felt Corporate Avenger was much better in terms of political rap-metal, shame they didn't last long. But, in general, I support bands w a positive political message, and tbqh, I like how popular RATM still is to this day.
I love Rage Against the Machine, I was into alternative metal sorta stuff before punk and Rage Against the Machine were one of the first bands I got into. When I saw them live at Finsbury Park and they covered White Riot it was amazing.
I never could follow Zizek...
He's not exactly easy to listen to, reading his stuff is a bit easier. he also has a tendency to go hard out leninist fairly regularly, but his stuff on anti-semitism is ace, as is his book on totalitarianism. Oh and when he spoke to OWS he warned about recuperation by comparing liberals to light beer and decaf coffee, 'beware decaffeinated protest!' or something along those lines. Hasn't some of Mr JP's fanboy-dom rubbed off on you yet? oh, and i put that vid up purely for teh lulz.
The man is quite the wackiest serious radical writer I think I've yet encountered, but frightfully good. I must confess I'm yet to sit down and try to properly penetrate his work, but I have read the occasional bit or piece Mr P has recommended. Oh, and watching him a bit on YouTube, which is just a foolish thing to do.
Wow, she really thinks a bunch of rich (implicitly) white guys really spent that much effort on killing a couple of black guys who ultimately had very little to say about the government? Why not kill Ice-T or The Coup?
Wait Butch.... Did I miss something important???!!! Is Alicia Keys an Anarchist?? I mean damn I thought she was so so fine before, but now??!! DAMN! God this has got to be the high light of my fuckin day!! Maybe now I got a decent chance! But funny thing I always thought she was way way more into Black Panthers? I massively respect the O.G. Panthers but the NBPP are a bunch of wannabe(alot are ex-NOI the best thing to come out of them is Malcolm, one of my heroes!) Muslim, wannabe Panthers who are dumb ass racists who were openly shunned be the surviving Old School Panthers as being racist posers that they wanted nothing to do with. I think they might have sued them over the rights to the name? I don't like racists no matter WHAT the color. But yeah after i saw her vid "Teenage Love Affair" which is loosely based on a 1988 Spike Lee Joint "School Daze" I just figured she was(Beyond being immensely talented, wealthy, & beautiful) into Panthers & way way out my league!! But I got a fightin chance now!! Thanx Butcher you can be my first fuckin man m8! We(Alicia & I) will toast ya as the man who brought us together! ''Cheers! to the best man! !"
Firstly, the article is from 2008. Secondly, it was a media beat up. The whole 'anarchist'/illuminati nutter thing stems from an interview in the May 2008 issue of 'Blender' magazine (sorry i can't find it online but a section is here, for which she replies here. So the 'its a conspiraciez!' stuff seems like BS. As for The Guardian's claims that "The singer considers herself an anarchist", I don't know; but I'd hazard a guess and say it also comes from that interview: In short, lulz.
Well I STILL THINK SHE IS HOT!! I was just so so looking forward to being her rebound off that Panther dude... Sigh... But truth is she probably couldn't love me.... I AM JUST TOO RUDE!! & THAT is FUCKED that New York's Swinest had kept tabs on her man.... A.C.A.B.