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Pornography

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Probe, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    right, fascism is a lot more than making stupid comments on the internets and if a simpleton calls me a wage-whore because i have to work for the living of me and my kindred:
    well, i'm proud to be a whore and prostitute!
    some people are just not capable to deal with reality and necessities. i wonder what he will do after leaving his parents shelter?
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYMvjNmu3c&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
  2. butcher

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  3. vAsSiLy77

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    don't mess with chimps! dealing with necessities:
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAhPqsLHmo&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
  4. butcher

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGTjYkj08RE[/video]
     
  5. vAsSiLy77

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  6. butcher

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    don' forget:
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no[/video]

    :o :o :o :o :o
     
  7. vAsSiLy77

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    okay, for the sake of the innocent - you won! o_O
     
  8. butcher

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    Victory to the virtuous!

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  9. nike

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    it's not one of her worst, my favorite is "unearned income" - and the real horrible part:
    o_O & the "moral" explanation:
    :ecouteurs: sumhow i miss the "sin of the flesh" and the virtue of chastity:
    or we simply ask the central committee each time we wanna... :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs:
     
  10. vAsSiLy77

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    may the interest of the working collective forever stay far from my sphere of sexual relationships :ecouteurs:
    - or else! amen...

    (And by the way, Mdme. Applez, this monkey is no chimp at all - but I guess you were just chating too!)
     
  11. anarchoskin69

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    Sex-positive pornography, only. Hardcore porn is sexist, abusive and downright offensive, its also against what anarchy stands for. when you search for porn just search for "sex-positive porn".
     
  12. Bentheanarchist

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    Okay, he's an extreme misogynist, and a selfish snob not a Fascist.
     
  13. vAsSiLy77

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    @gobbledigooks
    yours a fast one!

    @anarchoskin69
    sexist is debatable, abusive is wrong, because it's a more or less well payed staged play act, force or abuse would be illegal and bad for business - downright offensive is a question of taste for me too...
    - but why for anarchys sake is it against what anarchy stands for?
    (besides being exploitative, i guess we agree on that)
    care for an explanation of your point?

    @benttheanarchist
    i agree on the selfish and ignorant snob - but on the misogynist?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/misogynism
    what do you think? :ecouteurs:
     
  14. Bakica

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    Hardcore porn doesn't have to be sexist at all. o_O
     
  15. nike

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    dunno, maybe it's just easier and more realistic to state something like:
    "i don't like porn/ the porn industry/ the possible social problems for individuals"
    - if you are concerned about the media, instead of heaping up lots of terms like sexism, misogyny or more to express your disgust.
    polemics don't help to find a realistic and serious view point or opinion - and condemning sexworkers, prostitutes and workers in general for supporting "the system" is completely useless too, even if they play their role in capitalism, because there is not much else of an alternative.
     
  16. Bakica

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    The main problem is that society thinks that women / men working in porn industry are too stupid to do anything else, which is ridiculous.

    Also, I have a theory :ecouteurs: Mostly older people are 'against' pornography ( and showing it to kids), because they are scared and have low self-esteem. First of all, scared of their kids being given sexual education, which will make them more aware of their own body - autonomy - nature. As you're getting older, you're losing will to have sex, and most of the people ( with help from media) start to 'hate' ( can't find better word) all things related to sex. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this applies to all people.
     
  17. Bentheanarchist

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    Misogynist, because he talked about just about the women in porn being sluts, not the man. It is Misogynist to think that men can not be sluts and women can. I believe in free love which is called slutty be Christians, and Misogynists. Slut is a slur used for people who believe in free love.
     
  18. Bentheanarchist

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    Hardcore porn is not sexist. It is dirty, but it is not sexist. You just think it is sexist, because you are Buddhist. You are against Promiscuity, which to me is feminist, and to me Monogamy is sexist, because the man usually can cheat on the women while the women is taking care of the children, and enslaved in the kitchen, and the the women can not have sex with anyone else, but with free love this problem would be solved both the women and the man would be able to love who they want to love, man or women.
     
  19. anarchoskin69

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    In hardcore porn women get slapped, spit on and worse. I used to believe in free love, but it's not about how the women in the films themselves get treated, it's not showing the other side, the consent and talking about of the women that that is what they want. You'd be surprised of probably how much hardcore porn has created rape situations, simply because the woman didn't before face the hardcore situation, on camera tell of how she truly desired it. You really should look into sex-positive pornography more, for example, Tristan Taormino's movie "Rough Sex" can be considered feminist "hardcore" porn if you will, but women talk about how they want to be treated roughly before hand. You can't just treat every woman you meet like that, she may very much dislike the way you're treating her and in some cases it has lead to rape situations. Just do me a favor, and look into a bit more for me. And me thinking it's sexist has something to do with me being Buddhist, but also anarchist. As anarchists, we must hear out and listen to all points of view, whether from people of color, the LGBT community, feminists, ect.
     
  20. Bentheanarchist

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    I am just saying if it is consenual and approved by the women then it is not sexist, and if somebody thinks its sexist just not watch it. It doesn't matter if the women gets slapped, or spit on if they approve it, which must times they do. There is hardly any cases of rape in hardcore porn.