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Pigs will be Pigs

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by 1xAntifa, Dec 13, 2019.

  1. 1xAntifa

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    Nothing new here. Same censorship, different country. Same thing happened to Pussy Riot in Russia years ago for daring to speak out against Vladmir Putin.

    And even though I don't think anybody was ever arrested, the rap group N.W.A. was hounded by the F.B.I. for the song Fuck The Police, and Ice-T voluntarily removed Cop Killer off the first Body Count album. (People actually blamed the L.A. riots of 92 on that song) In the 80s, the F.B.I. opened files on such bands like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, and M.D.C. for writing/recording/performing songs with anti police sentiments. (Fuck, just look at the back cover, and title of M.D.C.'s first album)
     
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    I know it sucks. Then there was the lawsuit against DK's Frankenchrist for the H.R.Giger Alien Landscape gatefold that destroyed the band. It was the cops beating Rodney King that started the riots. I don't know how the bastards got away with it given the video evidence. We had a similar situation at Palm Island. The cops arrested this 1st nations fella, who died in custody. The locals rioted and trashed the cop shop. He died from a ruptured liver and the cops claimed that he "fell off a table"! The cops got away with that one as well.

    It was the open admission by the cop of "making their lives miserable" that got me. They're so blatant about it these days. They're really para-militaries above the law that behave like occupiers these days. It never used to be this bad.
     
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    Actually it wasn't a gatefold, but a separate poster included with the first copy of the album. (I actually have it) The obscenity trial too it's toll on the band, which lead to their break up, but, fortunately, they were found not guilty and let off with a warning. (The poster, in case you never saw it IS sexually explicit though, but it's really no more pornographic than what would you would find in The Joy of Sex, but even so, might still violate certain laws in certain areas)

    It was the acquittal of all the cops involved with the Rodney King beating that sparked everything. Of course that's the one that everybody knows about, but people don't know or know very little about other riots in other cities that took place around the same time due to the judge's decision. And most of those started out as peaceful demonstrations against police brutality. (And then there was the one riot in Chicago in the summer of 1992 after The Chicago Bulls basketball team one the championship. I remember Chicago police, along with Cook County Police, and Illinois State Police lining the border of Chicago/Oak Park to prevent the riots from spilling over into the suburbs. Luckily, they didn't get that far west, but they did come awfully close)

    The cops telling members of One Four that they intend on making their lives miserable isn't too surprising. Back in the 60s, and 70s the vice squad used to bust down the doors of artists studios, and printing presses of underground comics with their guns drawn, get everybody to lie face down on the ground, and then announce that they were NOT going to arrest them....... TODAY......... BUT.........

    The artists and musicians who don't work for the rulers are always hunted down...........
     
  5. 1xAntifa

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    You're right, it was a poster, my memory is getting vague. Isn't aging wonderful? I've seen the "offending" image but then that was Giger really, when he wasn't doing the satanic stuff. A friend had a copy of his Necronomicron which I poured through in my early 20's. The poster was quite tame compared to some of his other stuff which could be nightmarish. i do recollect the Chicago riots now that you've mentioned them. I remember when our vice squad raided the Sydney Biennale because they deemed a painting called Kiss of the Spider Woman obscene. It had Marilyn Monroe giving a golden shower to two Tom of Finland style figures getting it on, amongt other things. The artist was Queer which was still a criminal offense at the time. That caused a major shit-fight. Wound up they had to give it back, but it was concealed by screens and guarded so that no-one under 18 could se it. It hasn't been reproduced since the exhibition catalogue despite a monograph and a major retrospective of his work. And yet they still laud another artist who drew the underage boys he'd had sex with without batting an eye. There's no rhyme or reason to this sort of censorship except dissidence.
     
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    Has it ever been posted on the internet? Maybe Australian authorities might take it down, and block it, but if somebody from another country were to down load the image, and re-distribute it.........
     
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    Not that I'm aware of. I do have a copy of the catalogue so I should scan it and see if I can put it out there. The artist is Juan Davila. He fled Pinochet's Chile to settle here. He also got in the shit for doing a Gay representation of Simon Bolivar. That caused diplomatic protests when it was first shown. Davila was quite the provocateur in his day.
     
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