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Photos I've taken outside an abortion clinic

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by Becomingsoil, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. @narcho-Skinhooligan

    @narcho-SkinhooliganExperienced Member Experienced member


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    No doubt Ivanovich bro, the three main monotheistic faiths tend to foster a masochistic & sadistic worldview. YEAH GIVE ME PAGANISM ANY DAY.... Tho I don't believe in those "Gods" either... But at least they tended to be a hell of a lot more fun! ;)
     
  2. cybergod

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    I am pro-choice and don't really get the whole "it's only okay in cases of rape" thing. why, cause women should be punished for the mistake of getting pregnant?sick shit.
     
  3. Ivanovich

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    If it's sick that women are 'punished' for getting pregnant, how would you describe giving death sentence to someone for doing nothing?
     
  4. AnarchyThruUnity

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    The whole point of anarchy is to have freedom, so I don't care if a woman gets an abortion because that's just another rule out there in society. It's there choice just like it's your choice to be an anarchist. Imagine you wake up tommorow and there's people protesting outside your house protesting anarchy and eventually the government outlawed that.
     
  5. crustybeckham

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    On one of the pictures, there is a girl with red tape on her mouth and the caption reads "bilingual protesting". From what I am able to decypher, "viva" may be written on the tape. What is that about? Is she protesting for the right to be pro-life in another language? Or is this some sort of anti-immigration stance (which would literally mean that foreign languages are silencing her)?

    Kentucky seems full of surprises indeed.

    There are a couple of pro-lifers in Paris as well: really hardcore christians who think that France is the daughter of the Church. They would be hilarious if they were not dangerous and violent.
     
  6. silasraven

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    yeah and i support the right of pro life! nothing should be killed just because you stuck a dick in it and cum came out. i dont kill any seed i plant in soil not one. if it lives it lives. protest abortion! murder is murder
     
  7. silasraven

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    ha wake up anarchy is illegal if it isnt for money or some how being put into a system you are stopped.
     
  8. crustybeckham

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    We've got a romantic here...

    When you say "seed" and "soil", is it a metaphor for human genitals? Or are you a farmer?
     
  9. vAsSiLy77

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    it's a bit more than romantic, there have always been the calls for a giving-birth-duty for women declared to be the essence of nature and or creation, meant-to-give-life and other grusome things from patriarchal esoterix and superstitions or from the nazis needs for reinforcements via gifting the fuhrer with a child, to todays call for more child benefits, just to stop the dwindling number of "germans" in times of high living standards and their even higher costs resulting in declining fertility - just to preserve the endangered "german culture" for the rest of the worlds.
    most people suffering an "incident" that might result in an abortion have other things to think while having sex - so the problem isn't a conscious act like seeding, but a moment of bad luck, carelessness or passionate elysium - risky for the future life of at least two human beings, one of them completely help- and defenceless, but producing excessive claims to it's biological source(s). pregnancy is no fun, babycare a fulltimejob without any limits and raising a child in the here and now...
    seeding means harvesting in the end, killing living plants or taking away their means of procreation after they finished their vegetation circle - poor things - plant liberation says, their only faults are that they are edible and don't scream and wiggle under the sweeps of the scythe...
    (for the record: i'm omnivore and thank the fates each day for a relatively secure position in the food chain).

    sum parable from the catholic experts on human life and me:
    some time ago i had to attend a seminar session for depraved ex-junk-slaves like me, held in a christian orientated social rehab-institution:
    monsignore x. spoke about the status of morals in the modern worlds, using the example of a young woman who applied for an abortion because her unintended pregnancy conflicted with her plans for a long and expensive vacation. for monsignore x. a typical example of hedonism and disrespect for human life -
    i asked him if he would prefer that a mother with other priorities than becoming a mom raises an unwanted child with how much of at least a little bit of the passion and responsibility this future citizen demands...
    no answer from him, but an interesting discussion amongst his audience revealing how many of us deviants had experienced serious family problems or even an orphan-childhood and youth while growing up into...
    dunno, it's still questionable when "life" starts to be "life" - sperms wiggle and have an ambition, ovums take their way gracefully through the ovaries - and the majority of them ends up wherever without even the chance to fulfill their biological potential - fetusses get a nervous system and the ability to feel something - when?
    how many of them depart at an early stance because of physiological problems or the bad health or habits of the potential future mom - without even being noticed? do unborn kids deserve to be condemned to a potentially unlucky and even painful existence even before they are born into a world that isn't really a welcoming biotope for many?
    AND:
    i, plagued by estrogen and cursed with a certain set of primary sexual organs producing the stuff, have a fucking right to set my own priorities, decide what happens to my body and if i take over responsibility for a little (maybe beloved) parasite for the next 15 years of my life - or not.
    pro life and the demands of the experts of human living are a fucking punch right into my face - if they want children to be born, they should do it themselves, it would be quite fitting for the patriarchs of the church not at least because of their funny costumes... ah, shitts: forgot about the celibacy!
     
  10. silasraven

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    no not metaphor but i like the way you think. its wrong to kill anything just cause you dont want it. shit would you kill a dog because you dont want it barking all night. or kill your garden because the product turned bad because you gave it the wrong fertilizer. i am some what a farmer. not hick bullshit more urban in-door/ container pots outside. dont want a kid heres some tips. dudes- take the hotest bath you can tolerate(kills sperm), drink mountain dew(yellow #5 kills sperm) smoke weed(kills sperm) get spermicide lube. wrap your shit. chicks birth control pills chick condoms and if the romans didnt wipe out the plant im sure you could make birth control out of it still. fuck that child you give birth to could become the next person to abolish all government. think before you kill the next of our oi-caus brother or sister. still want to kill something? take yourself out when you kill the kid
     
  11. crustybeckham

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    I believe what you are referring to is called contraception.

    I agree with you, the child one bears could very well be the saviour of our civilization, the One who will save us from the machines and lead the rebellion against the terminators. Therefore, fuck abortion.
     
  12. slother

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    You say its wrong to kill anything and then you talk about killing sperm a bunch of times. Whats the difference between killing sperm and killing fetuses? killings killing right?
     
  13. silasraven

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    tuche on that. crusty to each his own on believes but for me and mine christ is the only savior from this hell we live in. from this "law" and "order" we sit in shit all day.
     
  14. punkmar77

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    I sincerely hope you realize what a mistake that is one day...
     
  15. silasraven

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    its improved my life so i will not
     
  16. Canis latrans

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    You seem to be under the impression that most abortions are done to a fetus, which is a specific and late stage in the development of a child. Until it is a fetus is just a parasitic mass of cells with the potential to become a human. And even then it has to survive long enough to be birthed.

    But never mind that. You are imposing your views of the how the world to be run upon others. Now I pose a question to you.
    Are a woman? And by that I mean a human being capable of bearing a child in your uterus? Of course you will dismiss that for what ever reason. Most likely because you think it is wrong no matter what.

    Another question. If this mass of cells that is not yet a fetus is still considered alive separate from the mother, at what point would it does that happen? At what point is the destruction of your sperm not murder? How would you like it your reproductive rights were controlled by law? Of course it is much easier to circumvent laws restricting male reproductive rights. can't masturbate because it wastes sperm? Well you aren't always watched. No spermicidal lubricants? Not really a big deal. Condoms illegal because they prevent sperm from fulfilling their god giving mission of fertilization? Still ways around that. Vasectomies illegal? Still a vastly less invasive and dangerous procedure to do in illegal clinics than an abortion.

    Should abortion be used as birth control? No, but there are so many methods that work that are far less traumatic. Should someone be allowed to tell another person that MUST carry a child to term that they do not want? No, because fuck you that is not YOUR body. You do not OWN that woman or her uterus. That is HER uterus. That is HER body. She is NOT property.

    As for all your clever ways to lower your sperm count. Hurray for YOU. You don't want to reproduce so you are making it less likely that you will, but say for a minute you were a woman, and you didn't want kids. Say your husband wants kids, and is doing small subtle things to sabotage your efforts at not giving him children. Things like minute pin pricks in the condoms, using the condom consistently wrong so they are more likely to break, hiding and/or replacing your birth control with a placebo. Say his plans work and you get pregnant. Your argument against abortion is from the viewpoint of a man not wanting kids, doing things that will prevent you from having viable sperm. Last time I checked, men don't get abortions.
     
  17. punkmar77

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    Then you might be in the wrong place...
     
  18. Canis latrans

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    No, no, can't you see? He is in exactly the right place. His magical zombie friend will ask his sky father to finally save him from this hell he is so unfairly stuck in. All he has to do it go around telling other people they are doing it wrong, and how to do it right.
     
  19. cybergod

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    And the baby who didn't exist because of contraception could also be the Savior of our civilization,and so could the baby who didn't exist because two people are not having sex, by this logic everyone should be having unprotected sex all the time.
     
  20. vAsSiLy77

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    CAUTION!
    most of the contraception methods enlighted silasraven mentioned are absolute bullshit and only good for getting people - especially women - in trouble.
    DON'T TRUST IN BULLSHIT!
    thc lowers male fertility sometimes, because it's stored in fat tissue - but it doesn't prevent sperm production completely.
    booze stuff does absolutely nothing, it's almost as stupid as to pretend coke-douches would help.
    a hot bath does nothing - a man has to raise the temperature of his testicles (22* celsius) for more than 12 hours per day to stop them producing sperm, only a handful of enthusiasts, wearing special underwear do this and shove their balls up into the pelvic cavity (37~celsius), simulating a failed descent of the testicles during male puberty which is usually cured surgically if boys growing up suffer from it.
    another secure method is sterilisation by interrupting the spermatic duct in the scrotum - its not reversible and extracting sperm from the testicles quite an ordeal and risky - so one has to decide for the rest of the life.
    hormonal medicaments which are burdened with often unpredictable side effects - by now for women only - may be simply incompatible and responsible gynaecologists refuse to prescribe it.
    so:
    the use of condoms AND pessar with an chemical anti-spermicid is the only way to achieve a relative level of security but still it reads on the packages: NO LIABILITY FOR FAILURES!

    question:
    how could a male fuck abortion while he's biologically unable to be confronted with the choice for himself?
     
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