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Painting Techniques

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by GolfNutsOi, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. GolfNutsOi

    GolfNutsOiMember New Member


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    So i am currently having trouble with acrylic paint staying on my leather jacket
    Ex: ill paint let's say, the Bad religion logo on the back of it and it chips after 1-2 weeks

    Is it the kind of paint that i am using?
    or the way i paint it?

    Help, please. thank you.
     

  2. nike

    nikeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    dunno, since i wear only black leathers i don't do colours anymore, there're those nice and handy white edding pens to write something like "battle religion" and stuffz.
    back in the days i did colours i found out that acryls look very good, cover up well and remain waterproof if they are really dry, but they have the tendency to break, because the layer of paint isn't as flexible as the leather below.
    bit of a progress was to paint very waterered down acryls in several thin layers, each after the previous was really dry, the effect is similiar to this arabic metalworker/welding-technique called '"damascening" - several layers make the whole thing much more flexible and unlikely to break.
    another alternative depending on what's avaliable in your area: water-soluble dye colours used for hair or clothing stuff, the complicated part is to thick them in, because they are meant to be very "thin" to have their effect in the original use, their pigments are very small.
    disadvantage: they don't cover up very well, painting several layers may help, maybe even a mix with some small amount of other water-soluble colours (acryls dosen't mix good with other stuff, their pigments are too large).
    the advantage of the dye-colours is, that they enter the fabrik of the leather and remain as flexible as it.
    another technique i never used: air-brushing or spraying with a stencil/template - but most of the spray colours aren't healthy/bio-dynamic/ecologically acceptable.
     
  3. GolfNutsOi

    GolfNutsOiMember New Member


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    Thank you.
     
  4. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    why not painting the logo on textiles and sew it on the jacket like a patch? painting on textile is much easier because the stuff takes the paint into the fabric and if you've never done it yourself, ask someone to do the sewing.
     
  5. GolfNutsOi

    GolfNutsOiMember New Member


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    i was thinking about that because i make patches with stencils and spray paint.
    BUT. i do not really favor patches on a leather. i just never did.

    i just like the look better is what it is.
    and i know i sound like i'm just doing this for " Fashion "
    bbut i just want my leather to look the way i want it to.
     
  6. nike

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    so why not trying/experimenting to stencilspray directly on the jacket - after practicising it on something less important? (leathershops give away leftovers and scraps sometimes! maybe they know something about leather painting too?)
    i never did it and i have only a vague idea of re-creating a logo via step-by-step stencils, but i would apprechiate to learn something about it from an enthusiast trying/doing it.
    "fashion" isn't that bad at all, it changes our view of people or things, it's part of culture like arts.
    fashion punks are as worse as hardcore purists endlessly preaching the blessings of the waste bin... just black&white again.
    don't worry, do your thing, learn something and be proud on what you finish perfectly the way you like it.
     
  7. GolfNutsOi

    GolfNutsOiMember New Member


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    Thank you for the support.
    I have done some stencils on my leather but sadly, has chipped.
    i try to apply as least amount of layers of paint as possible, but chips.
    I'm sure i just need some practice and i'm sure i'll get it down.
     
  8. vAsSiLy77

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    i wonder what kind of colour they use in those edding pens - i guess it's some kind of nitro-solvent based stuff, thats why they smell so unhealthy mindblowing o_O and dry up ultra fast.
    but on the practical side they seem to be very "thick" pigmented and covering well - the problem is the lack of colours avaliable, i don't remember anything but red, black and white.
    maybe some arts-shop, hobby- or colours-shop could provide some information - or a professional printer?
    i hope Gobblezdigooks sees this and remembers some of his knowledge from the printing-biz.
    seconded, just don't get caught on it...
     
  9. vAsSiLy77

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    Will look into it, but papers of future book pages is quite different to a leather jacket and even textile printing is meant for textiles and not leathers, so the very different texture of the fabric is a problem:
    How to get the colour into the leather and stop it from clogging up only on the surface and chipping at the first opportunity. (tattoo-ing the leather jacket? seems a bit odd...)
    "Fashion"-biz may have an answer or two, I'm sure somebody tried it before, but I guess catwalking Nikes are far better in looking into that...
    The next problem may arise with the question how to get specific paints or printing/drawing inks in smaller amounts than 75l-canisters used in the printing biz.

    (and btw: its "my dear Gobbledigooks" and not Gobblezdigooks... :ecouteurs: )
     
  10. Spike one of many

    Spike one of manyExperienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    Old post, I know but still relevant. I just used to use wall paint. If it chips - even better! :D