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Open These Borders for All!

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Probe, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Probe

    ProbeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Do you think borders are necessary? I cant really put this question in any better way so sorry...
    I found this song that said
    I was just wondering exactly what they meant by this and what you think of this...
     

  2. statuliber

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    Every year hundreds and thousands of people die trying to get over borders. And even if they make it they are treated like shit...
    So yeah I despise all borders and all arbitrary lines keeping us from freedom


    Well since Anarchy means that no states exist, it would mean abolishing all nation borders.
    Instead there would be small collectives, syndicats and whatever, which wouldn't need any borders.
    So yeah.
     
  3. Shuei

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    It will take quite a change in the system, and in the way resources are spread through out the world if the borders where to dissapear - But i say, we don't need them! It would sure make everything a little chaotic at first, but it would be for the better of the world i'm sure
     
  4. Lunadimae

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    Borders, meh. We only come once to this planet/life of ours and we are restricted from appreciating it because of 'borders' set by random strangers that you do not know.
     
  5. Mandi

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    Nationalism, borders, countries, pride, all are just another way for humanity to divide itself, seperate itself. We are all the same, there should be no divides between the world, it only breeds hate and misery. Tear down the borders - there is only one race: humanity.
     
  6. Anxiety69

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    dude, pink floyd said it best. 'TEAR DOWN THE WALL!'
     
  7. disfuck

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    this land is illegal and so is everyone , fuckin theives , no borders everyone has the same rights
     
  8. ungovernable

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    anarchists are against the concept of states and nations, so borders are useless.

    This song probably means that borders are responsible of hate and segregations, since most of the national differences are based on nations, and nations only exist because of borders. Without borders there would be only one nation, the planet earth, and only one nationality, the human genre. No more differences, nothing anymore to base hate on
     
  9. ILuvEire

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    What song is that?

    Anyway, I think any form of nationalism and borders is just straight bull shit. The only "border" I think is acceptable is the "border" of the community, but these shouldn't exist to keep people out, rather to take people in and incorporate them into the community.
     
  10. raindeer667

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    borders from the subhurbs, the downtowns, the westsides, north or south of the traintracks?

    fences have played a major dispute among native peoples, but who is the authority on territorial comfort or safety...
    I know anarchist's are not stagnant even though a community is set up in a urban settlement.
    The prominent have already seized the fertile, while the rest live with empty dirt lots

    freeways divide communities, or waterways stop travels, blah blah... so erosion really slows travel down and a simple damn would be well to keep some water, prevent deep ravines, and maintain the earth.
    The water then becomes a bank of potental, essential for life as with air. Clean drinking water anyways.

    Then a metal wall is gradually being set up, while a stone wall was torn down...
     
  11. nodz

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    Borders are a form of segregation. It's a way of separating differences. There can be national borders but there are also socio-economic borders. While not clearly defined like a border of a country, they are defined by class, economic status, religion etc. Anarchism aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals (AFAQ) Borders of any nature prevents this.
     
  12. Probe

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    Borders - Riot Brigade
     
  13. Rathryn

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    Pfft... borders ARE useless a nation is little more than a line on the map, there are no actual lines all across the land marked off on the map, is there? (with the exception of man made obstacles, which are bollocks anyway).
    People will probably still retain a us-them mentality due to the fact that the culture differences between different 'tribes', if you will, will remain intact. However these cultural inconsistencies are also found within the imaginary lines anyway, hell they can even be found from street to street, though the difference will be minute.
     
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