on calling cops pigs

how exactly am i "imposing " my views on anybody here? its the internet, im expressing my concerns.
how about you stop "imposing" your views on me that racism is bad?
is it cool for people to make free willed decisions about being racist? do you get where this is going?
oppressing animals or humans doesnt fit in to the anarchist way of thinking. oppression can never go hang in hand with anarchism.
you dont like what i say because you simply disagree with it.
what i believe makes you sick. what you (may) do (having something killed for your plate) makes me sick.
my THOUGHTS.
your ACTIONS.

 

I have no guilt, i'm about to eat a big fat roast beef sandwich and I i will enjoy every moment of it.

I don't see how answering my question with another question and then calling me out for not answering it as a viable answer to my original question.

But since you asked, I can help in a lot of ways, informing other people, direct action, etc. I would give my life or freedom for the cause. The anarchopunk scene being involved would need a lot of work to make an impact, mostly unity. But no one on this thread has put me off to the point that i wouldn't be willing to work with them to achieve the goals of no government.

There i answered your question so how about answering mine instead of more deflections.

 

That's a pretty bold statement, wouldn't ya say?

 

ummm, I don't eat meat, neither does Kaos-82. Why does thinking this thread is stupid mean you can't be/aren't a vegan/vegetarian? Moreover, what do you mean its not politics?

 

I don't think so or i wouldn't have said it. No one has ever presented to me an argument to prove so otherwise. I feel animals are on this earth to provide many things, including food for other species. And if people don't have a problem with cats eating mice, spider's eating flys, etc. then why is it assumed to be so awful if humans eat meat? Doesn't mean i'm against animal cruelty, but i don't see how changing one's diet compares to people being racist or sexist. Or how liberating animals is going to help humanity in the same way that destroying government control will.

 

Today on the way home I yelled "You fucking cops!" at a bunch of farm pigs.
They chased me down and beat me with night sticks.
As we wrestled through the mud and filth I realized that these were some hardcore nazi fucks
So I pulled out my knife and stuck each one in the neck.
The bacon I made later was delicious, but needless to say my sunglasses are ruined.

 

four legs good, two legs bad!

in other news...

lol
and mine....
"The emancipation of animals must be the work of the animals themselves."

 

calling cops pigs reminds me of the movie Fritz The Cat where the cops were actual pigs.

 

@Surgery Disaster & Butcher..... thanks for a good laugh, @ everyone else....lighten up, you are preaching to the choir... most of us, not all, but most are either vegan or vegetarian, and I understand your arguments and your passion but it's a bit silly to think that refraining from calling cops pigs (which I will probably never stop doing) is going to improve anything. Pigs aren't always soft and cuddly animals, they can be absolutely monstrous as well, just as all animals have that capacity.

 

I agree, if you want to eat them, eat. But, you will feel sorry, if you know how the animal was killed - tortured. It cant help humanity detrying government but it can help humanity to understand what solidarity is ! Its the same with racist. Dont fight racism with racism, but solidarity." Meat is still murder, diary is still rape "

 

If people (and animals) have an intrinsic interest in life why do some commit suicide?

Eh eh? bet you didnt think of that one when reading Peter Peter Fuckwit Singer

 

Actually I've been Vego for 5 years. I know very well the shit animals go to, I happen to watch (and enjoy immensely) a lot of horror films where they kill, butcher and eat live animals on camera, its rad you should watch it sometime.
Just one question, if Animals aren't tasty, why do we feel the need to make mock meat that tastes similar to it???

I have a problem with animals in industry, its fucked up, but be realistic, not everyone in the world is going to share your point of view, and you ramming it down peoples throats makes you out to be an asshole. I have no issues with people hunting for there food provided animal populations are sustainable, I have no issues with people eating meat if they choose to. It's lifestyle, not politics. Being Vegan won't change the world. Besides, what are all these meat workers going to do when theirs no meat! Think about it

 

gold

 

Well, to me, and maybe just to me, animals are other living creatures who should be submitted as least harm and suffering as possible. Sure, in nature animals kill other animals for survival, and that's what we are is animals, but at this day in age, with factory farms, and animal testing, animal consumption has gone much father than as a means for survival. Today the capabilities of surviving day to day without the use of ANY animal suffering are almost limitless. I do see similarities in my diet to my anarchist ideals. No, animal liberation will not DIRECTLY influence the collapse of the state in anyway, as you inquired an answer to above, but I also don't see it as a smokescreen of sorts. The animal rights movement shouldn't impede on the class war and the anarchist struggle, because let's face it, it is a larger and more important agenda to bring down capitalism and the state, because without which, there would be no animal suffering, but simultaneously you shouldn't down talk or criticize the animal liberation movement. What I want is freedom and equality for ALL living beings. animal, human alike. Also, as a parallel to anarchism, is the less detrimental damage to the environment and ecosystem that comes from abstaining from animal products, but that does not fit into the topic at hand and if interested should be stated in another topic.

So in a basic conclusion, I can see where you're coming from in the fact that the struggle against the state and capitalism IS more important, because without which, many more people (and animals) will suffer, but please don't condemn the work, and the empathy of the animal rights movement, because, as much as I hate to do this, I will quote a band here: "Animal liberation is our liberation"

:anarchism:

 

I'm sorry but I've heard all this before and as I said, I don't eat meat, I will wear leather purely because its a by product and it will continue to be so until such a stage that people stop eating meat but that won't happen. You evidently share the utilitarian view that Singer does to suggest everyone has intrinsic interest in living. Lemmings for example don't have that interest, otherwise they wouldn't turf themselves off cliffs. Its fine to be a vegan for whatever reason you choose. I agree with you, animals in Industry at present are treated horribly and it should be changed, but striving for that whilst capitalism operates purely to increase efficiency is like pissing into the wind.

 

http://www.problempets.co.uk/media/overtounbridge.asp

Suck it. Jk, but really, it's like ghosts and shit man. Dog's don't fuck around.


Also sorry for the tripple post, but each post was in different context, so I figured it'd be ok so have three different post with three different thesis statements.