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Occupy Wall St. (support/debate)

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Squee, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. nike

    nikeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    omigod, you really must hate all these nice hipsters people to show them in all their confused glory....
    honestly:
    i tried to watch the still-not-yet-peppered by sergeants looney hearts club camp 'till the very end, but when the meditation temple came up and yours private little fave's like nun-violent wellness for human animals, zeitgeist followed by "you look beautiful today" & "free hugs"... scott mckenzie in the background...
    a playground for people suffering from B12 and idea-shortage?
    mum's and dads nightmare's yoof:
    the future of human kind...!
    time for a change - at least the soundtrack:
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QOcpVLLNMtk great rock'n'roll swindle[/video]
    brainzgarbage & soynoize: they are prisoners of affluence and ideology...

    news from occupymunich:
    some nice kids armored in occupy-merchandise tried to video our FnB-giveout, mimicking/enforcing "cooperation and community" between them and the involved activists and guests, the later two became quite angry after some ignored requests not to film - so we forgot a bit our good education a bit and asked the new generation of protest to leave after a quick push on several "delete recordings" buttons...
    this is what happens if one gets publicity seeking... :ecouteurs:
     
  2. sali(e)

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    Looks like Oakland, CA police department just joined the "No Thanx Krew". Looks like that krew really knows how to "pick 'em"!
     
  3. Mike Generic

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    I've been following Oakland since yesterday morning, but just through various indymedia/twitter/blog posts.
    As far as I can tell, between 4:30 and 5:00am Tuesday morning, the cops surrounded and stormed the Occupy Oakland camp; I've heard a few reports of teargas, flashbang grenade and rubber bullet use. They arrested a bunch of people and tore the camp apart.
    Tuesday evening (not sure exactly what time) at least 1000 people (indymedia/blogs were putting the number around 1000, mainstream media putting it at around 500) went to Oakland City Hall to protest the police action that morning, and shortly after, riot cops came in to disperse the crowd, again using rubber bullets, tear gas, bean-bag guns and flash-bang grenades.
    Oakland PD said they kept tear gas usage to a minimum (bullshit), denied use of rubber bullets (again, bullshit), and denied using flash-bang grenades, claiming that the explosions were caused by protesters throwing M-80 firecrackers at them (buuuuuulllllllshiiiiit).
    I've also heard several reports of the police ordering reporters from visibly mainstream news sources to shut off their cameras and leave the premises, as well as reports of journalists being targeted and fired at with rubber bullets and bean bags.

    Just in case you were having a particularly cheery day, here's some video to help get you a little pissed off.

    Oakland riot cop throwing a teargas canister into a crowd of people trying to help and injured man. The end of the video is the man who had been shot, reportedly at point blank range, in the face with a rubber bullet.
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bytMNoKNeRA&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
     
  4. Mike Generic

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  5. Mike Generic

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    Shit, I just read that the man in the first video I posted, where the cop lobs a smoke grenade into the crowd, who was lying on the ground was an Iraq War veteran, and is apparently in critical condition with a fractured skull resulting from a rubber bullet shot.
     
  6. nike

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    tell them how you feel, baby, when it's your turn to be picked up, let's hope you make it on youtubes...
    occupied oakland:
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  7. vAsSiLy77

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    some more voices from vanity fair la:
    The General Assembly and Grassroots Democracy - posted october 3, 2011
    https://unpermittedla.wordpress.com/201 ... democracy/

    and my personal fav, even if it's far beyond the fan girl horizont:
    RAC: To all our families and [email protected] in the struggle - Posted October 12, 2011
    unpermittedla.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/rac-to-all-our-families-and-companers-in-the-struggle/

    Statement from DeColonize LA - Posted October 16, 2011
    http://unpermittedla.wordpress.com/2011 ... lonize-la/

    Occupying LaLa Land - October 17, 2011
    http://unpermittedla.wordpress.com/2011 ... lala-land/

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    don't cha worry, Nike "No Thanx" Mihailowna, vanity fair light in frankfurt/main faces problems with zeitgeist AND npd-fascists trying hard to fill up the vacuum... taz and spiegel are full of it.
     
  8. Bakica

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    Cops are protesting in my city.

    Fuck yeah ! They will start shooting now :ecouteurs:
     
  9. Unreasonable Man

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    Get some Occupysf up in this hizzy...
    Do you know if it was a tear gas grenade (That aint smoke) or a flash bang as I've heard reported elsewhere? The camera doesn't linger on that section long to see if the canister starts spewing CS gas (they were using the Waco good stuff, burns the skin) but it does show that one girl in essence being...stunned. Either way its worth noting that he was shot twice, once at point blank range and a second time when the dropped the flash-bang on his comatose body.

    And the last I heard about Scott Olse(o?)n was that he was in fair condition after being in critical for most of yesterday.

    Related I think the backlash from this is what canceled the occupysf raid last night as well as enabled occupyoakland to retake Oscar Grant Plaza.
     
  10. Mike Generic

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    Hmm, last I heard Scott Olson was in a medically-induced coma.
     
  11. Unreasonable Man

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    On another note #occupyoakland is calling for a citywide General Strike wednesday.

     
  12. punkmar77

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    San Diego Occupy Raided

    150 riot police marched double-time into the San Diego Civic Center without warning and began busting heads at approximately 1:30 in the morning tonight, 25 to 30 people were arrested, another of my friends from Tijuana was beaten severely by 7 cops..I was chased down the street but managed to get in my car and leave without being arrested.....all media was kept from this by police as well

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  13. nike

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    maybe it's a bit cynical in this moment, but i think i found one of the mental fathers siring the actual excitement:
    and even more funny:
    bit strange, isn't it? o_O
     
  14. vAsSiLy77

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    next time take your helmet with you, Scott, good luck!
    seems like some people always need to learn the hard way before they get real...

    i honestly never meant "vanity fair" to be serious, so you caught us completely unprepared... laughing tears!
    so here's a picture from the vanity fair's album:
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  15. ungovernable

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    Occupy Montréal - a brief report
    Anonyme, Jeudi, Octobre 20, 2011 - 16:22
    (Analyses | Resistance & Activism)

    The recent CrimethInc. text written to the occupying movement was distributed in Montréal by the hundreds in both English and French, depending on the language of the recipient. We translated the text ourselves, and it's good. Otherwise, there was a very small visible anarchist presence, mostly in the form of backpatches, a few black flags or black-and-red flags, and a few banners. This must be contrasted to the Maoists of the Parti communiste révolutionnaire, the Zeitgeist Movement, the Lyndon Larouche cult, various ragtag bands of Québécois sovereigntists, and other marginals who managed to be visible. There are more anarchists than any of these groups, except maybe the sovereigntists, but the majority of anarchists chose either not to engage or they chose to engage in a way that didn't mention the A-word.

    One such way was the Décolonisons Montréal contingent (Decolonize Montréal or Descolonicemos Montreal, in English and Spanish), which consistently pushed the line that a strictly pacifistic protests is foolish and that the police are not the friends of the occupiers. They also pushed an anti-capitalist analysis early in the day, which might've helped to influence the character of the march later, and they helped to distribute some of the CrimethInc. texts, as well as promoting a demo against Canadian imperialism and the G20 summit in France on November 3 and a march organized by the family of people killed by police on October 22, both of which are cool.

    The entire wooded section of the Square du Peuple (previously Square Victoria) is now covered in tents and tarps that are hung up between trees, as well as a few tarps and other things. It is a pretty interesting transformation of space, and it now feels like something that could be described by the word "glen". Bourgeois municipal law decrees that parks must close at 23:00, but Square Victoria is not a park, but a town square, and therefore open to citizens twenty-four hours a day. We can expect that there will be an attempted eviction at some point, but maybe the authorities will leave this job to Général L'Hiver. When things get too cold, perhaps we'll all just leave.

    There was an unpermitted march of about a thousand people, or at least more than five hundred, through downtown Montréal today. Unpermitted marches aren't particularly special in this city, but the direction was. We walked west along rue Sainte-Catherine, against traffic, from Square Phillips to Concordia, which is pretty crazy. After that, we turned around and walked the other way to Place des Arts, cut through the Chinese Quarter to Old Montréal, hung out in front of the Bank of Montréal's headquarters, and walked back to the Square. There were no moments like Rome, but there could have been, and while there were lots of pacifists, there were also lots of people who were militant and joined in militant chants.

    - "Pour un monde sans patrons, ni flics, ni prisons." For a world without bosses, cops, or prisons.

    - "La police [sont] en service de riches et de fascistes!" The police [are] in service of the rich and the fascists. It didn't catch on too much, unfortunately.

    - "A - ANTI - ANTICAPITALISTE." Very similar to the Spanish phrase, except it's like an "euh" sound at the end instead of an "ah" sound. Hugely popular, actually.

    - "Le Capital nous fait la guerre. Guerre au Capital!" Roughly: Capital wages war on us. Therefore, WAR ON CAPITAL! It was also hugely popular. In Montréal, the crowd is pretty okay with the idea that capitalism sucks, even if we are having difficulty pushing an anti-police analysis. Perhaps that will change when the attacks begin. It is worth noting that none of the people we sometimes see at the anti-police demos were present, as far as we could see. Maybe they knew that their time was gonna be wasted.

    The general assembly was useless. Two committees were formed, one which is planning "individual actions" and one which is planning "collective actions". We weren't there and so we can't speak to it very much.

    It is worth noting three other things. First, large numbers of people STUCK IN TRAFFIC due to our blatantly illegal march honked their horns and gave the marchers the thumb's up, so that's cool. Second, when we walked past the fire hall in Palais des congrès, they blared their sirens and made a lot of noise, and that was kind of nice. Third, as of writing, the statue of Queen Victoria is wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, wearing a giant sign for the Zeitgest Movement as a necklace ("Aller à l'Avant - ZEITGEIST - Moving Forward"), and wielding the Patriot's Flag, which is a symbol for Québécois sovereignty dating to the pre-Confederation rebellion in the Canadas. So it's better than it was before, but the problem is that the statue still exists.

    May all your occupations become decolonizations, synonymous with insurrections.

    LOVE & SOLIDARITY
    a Montréal anarchist or two

    http://www.anarchistnews.org/node/15565
     
  16. butcher

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    I actually thought that Crimethinc text wasn't that great.

    Better:

    Occupy Melbourne basically split today. :/
     
  17. punkmar77

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    We suffered a split early on too butcher, between pacifists holding "I <3 S.D.P.D." and the majority that knew better than to trust any police...spirits were down for a day or so..then we were attacked and maced with arrests, the split faction tried to occupy a park with supposed blessings from police but didn't last more than 3 days before they were removed..in the end they all slithered back to the camp we defended. 3000 strong at last nights gathering.
     
  18. butcher

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    the 'we' when i refer to occupy melbourne doesn't exist, i'm not involved. :ecouteurs:
     
  19. nike

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    dead serious: i found it by chance, i was looking for something else and at first i couldn't believe it myself, but after the eternal Gobblez saw it too:
    the hype of the year was born in vanity fair... :o :o :o
    guess one fine day i will understand what's the point making this we-are-doomed-the-end-is-near-rant of some depressive sunnyboy better than creammethinks chummy selfpromotion?

    wanna have a laugh in all this carneval mess?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... all-street
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... -questions

    and guess i deserve a working class hero medal for sparing ap-net the german interviews with the leading zeitgeist clique of the leaderless mess in frankfurt - they are already controlling the net-output o_O , ban banners of leftwing trade union yoofs... o_O o_O
     
  20. THEBLACKNOVA

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    Occupy Tijuana

    Occupy Tijuana

    In the early morning of October 18, around 2:20am, the Municipal and State police illegally, arrested 27 Occupiers: 20 men, 6 women and 1 child.

    Oct. 22, 2011 Occupy Tijuana Returned to organizing and took to the streets.

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZoSujXKlgA[/video]
     
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