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Occupy Wall St. (support/debate)

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Squee, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. Inna Ruts

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    professional prolific writer stephen colatrella, now a crackademic p.h. something eh?
    i guess it would be fun to debuke his will-o-wisping between the headlines of the post-marxist left step by step, quite boring for people not really interested in political economy - the london progressive journal/the enough campaigns site are typical waste bins for stuff written-but-unread - and in my eyes he should have been reading Ellen Mieksins Woods "Mind and Politics: An Approach to the Meaning of Liberal and Socialist Individualism" or "Democracy Against Capitalism: Renewing Historical Materialism" instead of only abusing her name and turning her insight into an argument for his little "capitalist conspiracy" special. the very same goes for his "quoting" of charles wright mills writings about "the power elite" - and in colatrellas case important:
    "white collar: the american middle classes"...
    makes quite a reading in times of "the world revolution" coming out of social networks, ragtagging every avaliable scrap of rebel talk but always keeping "nice" and far from being dangerous to the real root of our problems, while desperately claiming real social struggle and those suffering as their allies - now, after decades of collaboration and occupied by living on credits of the greedy banking system they start to feel falling out of the food chains top five?
    just too bad that the "end of economic growth" in capitalism - and resulting from this, the possible unhappy end of the crime - is a very complicated wallflower deeply buried under liberal reformism for almost 40 years, too bad too, that difficult marxist writers like rosa luxemburg or Henryk Grossmann got lost in the fancy arbitrariness of modern times, where it's easier to stir up a little excitement with social envy and the yummy-part of the populist cookbook, instead of overcoming economic illiterateness and researching the continously growing "austerity" during the last 40 years:
    "they" don't try to suppress the working class to save capitalism, they just try to save whats left of their version of democracy and with that their own rule from the conflicts resulting from the chaos of egoistic ignorance in capitalism on the way out of history.
    and finally: what will happen if the banking system get's smashed while the state remains unchallenged?
     
  2. sali(e)

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    The STATE is nothing more than the BANKS byyyyaaatch!!

    envy a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc.
    Wiki >“Envy occurs when someone begrudges another individual for his or her possessions or attributes, or when an individual longs for the other’s possessions and attributes”.[8] Another definition of envy is “a person or a group of persons and some possession, capacity or trait that the subject supposes the rival to have. Envy involves both an envier (subject) and the party who is being envied (rival).[9]


    Envy that there are governments in this world that only govern some of us. Envy the Governments and Regimes that make rules only some of us are forced to abide by. Envy the punishers and punishments that not all are subjected to, no matter their actions. Envy the money (just made up shit) that pays for a way out of the bullshit made up system. Envy that billionaire’s can not only turn, but spin the heads of state across the world.
    I’d say I’m just fucking sick of it! They can keep their fancy expensive shit and shove it up their asses, who cares? What they or any one else they pay off can not do, is deny a human being


    Wiki > Not everyone agrees on what the basic human rights are. Here is a list of some of the most recognized ones:
    • Right to have privacy
    • Right to live, exist
    • Right to have a family
    • To own property
    • Free Speech
    • Safety from violence
    • Equality of both males and females; women's rights
    • Fair trial
    • To be innocent until proven guilty
    • To be a citizen of a country
    • The right to express his or her sexual orientation
    • To keep one's own gender identity and rights to have or not to have a surgery
    • To vote
    • To seek asylum if a country treats you badly
    • To think freely
    • To believe and practice the religion a person wants
    • To peacefully protest (speak against) a government or group
    • Health care (medical care)
    • Education
    • To communicate through a language
    • Not be forced into marriage


    It is not coveting the billionaire’s billions. Just the very beginning of moneys façade, crumbling… fucking finally
     
  3. punkmar77

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    Who the fuck are you speaking to?

    pretty daft to post these two on an anarchist site don't you think....?
     
  4. sali(e)

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    Answering the question.


    Daft? That was one of the points. I was cutting and pasting from Wikipedia, that site seems to be a HUGE favorite round these parts!
     
  5. punkmar77

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    Answering a question by stating "byyyyaaatch"?

    Generalizing about Wikipedia is bullshit, if you want to cut and paste that's fine but editing for content is also an intelligent thing to do.

    So yes Daft. And I will let you know right now, that if you are going to remain on this forum; don't troll anyone else...period.
     
  6. sali(e)

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    If it is not clear, I was referring to the STATE as being the "byyyyaaatch". Not the person posting the question.
     
  7. punkmar77

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    Ok I guess we'll take your word for that...
     
  8. punkmar77

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  9. JOHNNYSTUDDS

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    How to approach a conservative city, with radical point of views/ tactical ways to advance a movement

    Oi this johhnystuds, this is my first posted topic. I live in San Diego, i have currently been occupying my city. The first couple of weeks were fucking awsome, we had unlimited supplies of food, medical equipment, education such as books and news reads etc. Everything was great until they chopped our ratio of occupiers, thanks to the pigs raiding us. We went from more than 300, to less then 30 a day. Its sad to see this happen and i want to help my community. Can anyone help out with some pointers? ahahahaha i feel like a dumbass not knowing what to do, of course as an anarchist were not really pushing our agenda, but i feel like im suppose to be there to help. \m/ :ecouteurs:
     
  10. Bentheanarchist

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  11. sparkey976

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    Jesus that picture pisses me off to no end!makes my blood BOIL! what makes a person want to do that shit fo work?? what kind of damage does it take???my wife forbade me from going to the local occupy gathering, being the big dumb skin that I am she insisted (and was probably correct) that I WOULD be arrested more than likely for assault on a police officer...again.

    I could give a fuck about spending the night in county but I do have a family to take care of and I suppose she had a point but I'm just a nosy motherfucker and I don't like to watch people get bullied, anyway I found some creative ways to help out donating cases upon cases of bottled water, surplus blankets,hand and foot warmers and other supplies bringing 15 pizzas on a Friday night is a pretty rewarding feeling.

    it's not too hard to find a way to pitch in, shit like this is what some of us were made for, but it doesn't seem to be getting the attention it deserves. any Ideas on how to better promote this and what do any of you think this will lead to?
     
  12. @narcho-Skinhooligan

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    Well as Ben showed. The deal is turning vicious with the police being highly militarized, i.e. pretty heavily fucking armed. They clearly have the upper hand & any violent self defense you use will be meet with swift corp. & state sponsored police brutality. Plus not mention a pretty lengthy stay in one of Uncle Scam's many fine institutions of correction. Which is also corp. & state sponsored. I gotta give it to the bastards that run this shit. They sure know how to stack the cards in their favor. They are cracking down across the states. Dissent is not good for business brother.
    WELCOME TO THE FOURTH REICH. :anti-nazi:
    A.C.A.B. BROTHER, A.C.A.B.
     
  13. Bentheanarchist

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    I still have to get my ass over to occupy fort worth.
     
  14. punkmar77

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    This is my friend Jay Polk, at Occupy he was the master cook that somehow kept hundreds fed every day for months, he would go out of his way to find me every time hot vegan/vegetarian food was offered and make sure I ate.....

    He was killed in the war yesterday one week after being activated as a reserve soldier.

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    :ecouteurs:
     
  15. Bakica

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    Rest in peace. :ecouteurs:
     
  16. Bentheanarchist

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    RIP :ecouteurs:
     
  17. iflewoverthecuckoosnest

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    :ecouteurs: May he Rest in Peace. Sounds like he was a great guy :/
     
  18. punkmar77

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    Now there is massive controversy regarding Jay, it seems before he left, he left us a clue on his facebook page:

    SOLDIER’S FACEBOOK POST RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT U.S. SPECIAL FORCES IN SYRIA

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    the rest of the article is very revealing, and it almost seems Jay knew he wasn't coming back

    here is the article:

    http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/8423
     
  19. butcher

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    So anywayz, after what happened in Oakland peeps here in Melbourne have called a 'solidarity march', the callout for the march states:
    http://www.facebook.com/events/263941993676652/

    So a 'solidarity' that consists of slandering those they claim to be in solidarity with. :ecouteurs:
     
  20. butcher

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    Oh yeah, #OpPigRoast peeps have named and released a rather extensive set of personal details of the cop who beat up and hospitalised a pregnant woman with leukemia (tough huh?). No idea if they got the right dude, but yeah.
    Details here:
    http://pastebin.com/B9q02Wub
     
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