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Occupy Wall St. (support/debate)

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Squee, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. Squee

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    If you're close enough, the Occupy Wall St. event is still going and and could probably use some support... Though not explicitly anarchist, the event has radicalizing potential. https://occupywallst.org/ for more info (where to go, some expectations, etc.).
     

  2. Mike Generic

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    I'm really curious to see how this turns out.
    I find it interesting, yet not surprising, that the major news outlets are ignoring the protest.
    Has anyone found any really good news articles on it? Since most major news sources (even in Canada) are ignoring it, and it's even hard to find reports on it among indie sources.
     
  3. QueerPunk

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    LIVE AND STREAMING...

    COPS TRIED SHUTTING DOWN THE MEDIA GENERATOR BY TAKING THE GAS FOR THE GENERATOR AND ARRESTED TWO PEOPLE.


    http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution


    THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB WITH CONSENSUS DECISION MAKING IN LIBERTY PLAZA.
     
  4. ungovernable

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    Yahoo is censoring e-mails on Wall Street protest

    Thinking about e-mailing your friends and neighbors about the protests against Wall Street happening right now? If you have a Yahoo e-mail account, think again. ThinkProgress has reviewed claims that Yahoo is censoring e-mails relating to the protest and found that after several attempts on multiple accounts, we too were prevented from sending messages about the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrations.

    Over the weekend, thousands gathered for a “Tahrir Square”-style protest of Wall Street’s domination of American politics. The protesters, organized online and by organizations like Adbusters, have called their effort “Occupy Wall Street” and have set up the website: www.OccupyWallSt.org. However, several YouTube users posted videos of themselves trying to email a message inviting their friends to visit the Occupy Wall St campaign website, only to be blocked repeatedly by Yahoo. View a video of ThinkProgress making the attempt with the same blocked message experienced by others (click full screen for a better view of the text):

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    Yahoo blocks users from sending e-mails about the OccupyWallSt.org website with a message claiming "suspicious activity"

    Over the weekend, thousands gathered for a “Tahrir Square”-style protest of Wall Street’s domination of American politics. The protesters, organized online and by organizations like Adbusters, have called their effort “Occupy Wall Street” and have set up the website: www.OccupyWallSt.org. However, several YouTube users posted videos of themselves trying to email a message inviting their friends to visit the Occupy Wall St campaign website, only to be blocked repeatedly by Yahoo. View a video of ThinkProgress making the attempt with the same blocked message experienced by others (click full screen for a better view of the text):
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2LREhJH4U&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    ThinkProgress tried other protest websites, like AmericansforProsperity.org and TeaPartyPatriots.org, and both messages were sent smoothly. However, emails relating to the OccupyWallSt.org protest were blocked with the following message (emphasis added):

    Your message was not sent
    Suspicious activity has been detected on your account. To protect your account and our users, your message has not been sent.
    If this error continues, please contact Yahoo! Customer Care for further help.
    We apologize for the inconvenience.

    ThinkProgress has sent a request for more information to Yahoo, and will post any reply once we have received it with Yahoo’s explanation for its apparent censorship.

    It’s not the first time Yahoo has been accused of political censorship. Yahoo officially partners with the repressive Chinese regime to provide the government with access to emails related to groups viewed as dissidents. An explosive investigation by Der Spiegel found that Yahoo provided Chinese authorities with access to emails from journalists, and the snooping resulted in the same journalists being sent to prison camps.

    The Occupy Wall Street protests have continued, but if you own a Yahoo e-mail account, you might not know about it.


     
  5. vAsSiLy77

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    Re: Yahoo is censoring e-mails on Wall Street protest

    the scandal about yahoo assisting the chinese authorities is already quite old, the first big article was from 2005, and it's not only yahoo doing the informing:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi ... 65,00.html

    09/17/2005
    Yahoo Scandal
    When the West Helps China Spy
    By Nils Klawitter

    For years, American internet companies have been helping the powers-that-be in China to spy on their own people. Yahoo is even said to have exposed a journalist.
    The last time Gao Qinsheng saw her son, she hardly recognized him. She remembered Shi Tao, 37, as a large and powerful man. But all she saw now was "skin and bones." Gao told prison officials that her son needed a doctor.
    Instead he was transferred to a re-education camp about a week ago. The camp, officially dubbed a "machine factory," sits on a small island in Dongting Lake in the southern province of Hunan, where Shi Tao shares a cell with at least 30 prisoners. If things go poorly for Shi Tao, this could be his living arrangement for the next ten years.
    His crime? Shi Tao, a journalist with financial daily Dangdai Shang Bao, electronically forwarded an internal Communist Party directive concerning the 15th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre to a "foreign hostile element." The document contained little more than a general warning about the return of certain dissidents. But it was precisely this word -- dissident -- that was probably picked up by the state security apparatus' filter programs, focusing the attention of one of the country's 40,000 internet censors on Shi Tao.
    But because the journalist had taken the precaution of sending his e-mails from an anonymous address, the Chinese authorities had to turn to Yahoo for help. And the American internet company, through which Shi Tao had sent his e-mails, apparently had no qualms helping out the Chinese. According to the organization Reporters without Borders, Shi Tao could never have been arrested without the servile Americans. When he was sentenced in April, the People's Court expressly referred to information "provided" by Yahoo: the journalist's personal account and the exact transmission time of the incriminating message.
    The case became a PR disaster for Yahoo. Only after it was reported in various newspapers did company spokeswoman Mary Osako issue a terse statement to the effect that each individual Yahoo office must operate within the framework of local laws and "customs." Customs? Does that mean child labor? A little light torture? What exactly does the word "customs" mean to Yahoo?
    Osako also told SPIEGEL that the company, of course, abides by its own "privacy policy." But that policy is full of holes. As far back as 2002, Yahoo voluntarily signed a document ominously titled "Commitment to Self-Discipline for the Chinese Internet Industry."
    Until the Shi Tao case, this meant helping out with censorship as well as blocking access to certain internet sites to China's approximately 100 million internet users. Google has also complied with Chinese policy, and Microsoft's MSN was even willing to remove search terms like "democracy" and "human rights" from its portal. According to MSN's model of cultural relativism, this kind of language is simply "forbidden speech" in China.
    But, says Reporters without Borders, Yahoo's latest move has essentially relegated it to the role of "police informant." The US company, which had just acquired 40 percent of China's biggest e-commerce company, Alibaba.com, for $1 billion, had apparently taken this approach in an effort not to make waves in what it viewed as the prevailing political landscape.
    In taking this approach, though, American companies contradict the doctrine that opening up markets will encourage political liberalization.
    Journalist Ethan Gutmann has addressed this issue for years. Network provider Cisco, which has operated in China since the mid-1990s, is one of the usual suspects in Gutmann's articles. "We firmly believe," says company spokesman Ron Piovesan, "that the internet has made countries all over the world more open."
    But Chinese citizens haven't exactly been able to count on Cisco's help in this respect. Indeed, the company has done exactly the opposite, says Gutmann, reconfiguring its top-selling firewalls and routers to meet the Chinese government's censorship needs. In a study on the internet filtering system in China, the "OpenNet Initiative," a research pool of three North American universities, writes that Cisco products are especially well-suited to helping out the government's monitoring system.
    The devices cost about $20,000, and Gutmann says that Cisco already sold "several thousand" in 2002. Cisco spokesman Piovesan claims that the company merely sells network equipment "and is not involved in government censorship efforts." It's an excuse that sounds a bit like that of the weapons dealer who steadfastly denies having anything to do with war.
    In 2000, concerned politicians started to raise red flags about the role of technology transfer in censorship. To address these problems, they established the US-China Economic and Security Review. At one of the Commission's meetings, someone asked why trading in censorship-ready products isn't illegal. The response? "That's a good question." The issue was quickly forgotten, and nothing has changed since then.

    Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan

    some more from the ny-times - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/busin ... yahoo.html

     
  6. A Better World

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    occupywallst.org

    There is a movement going on in the financial district of NYC. See for yourself or better yet join the 99% in the occupation of Zucotti Park , a stones throw away from Wall Street. occupywallst.org or just google occupation of wall street to see independant media coverage of the event. We are the 99 percent of the population sick of getting fucked fucked by the 1.
     
  7. shabbashabba

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    heading to wall street

    taking a bus into nyc with some friends tonight!

    i've been reading https://occupywallst.org/ but what's the camping situation like if anyone knows?
     
  8. shabbashabba

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    Re: occupywallst.org

    im heading up from washington dc tonight. ill get into chinatown around 10 or 11 and march over to zucotti.

    CANT WAIT!
     
  9. JesusCrust

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  10. JoeyV

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccazpyz0RyQ[/video]

    Find Your City

    http://occupytogether.org/

    OCCUPY TOGETHER: a hub for all of the events springing up across the country in solidarity with Occupy Wall St. As we have followed the news on facebook, twitter, and the various live feeds across the internet, we felt compelled to build a site that would help spread the word as more protests organize across the country. We hope to provide people with information about events that are organizing, ongoing, and building across the U.S. as we, the 99%, take action against the greed and corruption of the 1%.

    We will try our best to provide you with the most accurate information possible. However, we are just a few volunteers and errors are bound to occur. Please be patient as we get this site off the ground and populated and please contact us if you have any info on new events, corrections, or suggestions for this site. You can contact us at info[at]occupytogether[dot]org.

    We will only grow stronger in our solidarity and we will be heard, not just in New York, but in echoes across this nation.

    Important note: Occupy Together will never ask for any monetary donations. We suggest that, if you want to donate monetarily, that you visit this site to help those who currently Occupy Wall St.
     
  11. punkmar77

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meT8CJgEBQw&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  12. Carlos

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    I was discussing this on another Forum, and some guy swears MSNBC is just left of Marx, i lold.
     
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  14. punkmar77

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    JP Morgan Chase Donates $4.6 Million to NYPD to Deter #occupywallstreet

    stopforeclosurefraud.com — Timing is everything: JPMorgan Chase just donated $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD's main data center. 2 days ago

    http://digg.com/news/world_news/jp_morg ... wallstreet
     
  15. RotCrust

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    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/01 ... ll-street/

    Marines protect protestors
     
  16. RotCrust

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    Any pdx punks going? I am, armed with a video camera and maybe some goggles :p it's this Thursday at waterfront park
     
  17. ungovernable

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  19. Bentheanarchist

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    I support occupy Wall Street. The mainstream media do not cover the protests because they are against the protests.
     
  20. punkmar77

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    The media is covering the protests....
     
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