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ungovernable · Sep 26, 2009

http://ow.ly/qNZ5

An interessing site with a lot of infos and news about the G20... Twitter following, videos, pictures, blogs articles, press covering, etc...

BTW, anybody on this forum is going at the protests?

NGNM85 · Sep 26, 2009

Looks rough. I heard the city officials wouldn't grant the activists the right to protest, it looks about as successful as when they tried that in Chicago in '68. Sounds like they're in full stormtrooper mode. Heres' some more info and links from Huffpost:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_298692.html
If I was up to it thats' where I would be. I wish the best of luck to all those who are down there.

ungovernable · Sep 26, 2009

yeah they didnt allow the anarchists to protest, so it turned up in a confrontation between protesters and police... But from what i have heard the protesters are really bad organized unlike the police who are very well equipped and they outnumber the protesters.... So it's turning up to be a "cat vs mice" race in the cities and nothing else... Nothing comparable to seattle riots or anything big so far... I don't even know if there is a strong Black Block presence...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73LxhE5 ... r_embedded

NGNM85 · Sep 27, 2009

Christ! I didn't realize it was that bad. If I was in better health I'd be there for sure. I wish the best to anyone who is. Heres' a clip from the Rachel Maddow show on the G20, some moderately interesting stuff, Iran, etc., but the most interesting is the first two minutes where they cover the "sound cannons" being used on the protestors and how physically harmful they are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4OVAV0OW-Y

ungovernable · Sep 27, 2009

thanks a lot for the video! very interessing

ungovernable · Oct 9, 2009

It was cool to see new ways of organizations online for the activists at G20, but like feared not only the activists are using these tools.... The police also use twitter to spy on protesters...

Nobody ↑ :
Government Arrests Activist for Twitter, Army Warns that Vegetarians and Terrorists May Follow

Oct 7th, 2009 by Will Potter

Two activists have been arrested for using Twitter to communicate during the G20 protests, another step in the continued, escalating attack on First Amendment rights in the name of combating “extremism” and “terrorism.”

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Elliot Madison is a social worker and anarchist who was arrested in Pittsburgh on Sept. 24 and “charged with hindering apprehension or prosecution, criminal use of a communication facility and possession of instruments of crime.” In plain English: police say he used Twitter to spread information about police movements during the G20 protests in order to help activists avoid arrest.

Madison worked with a group called the Tin Can Communications Collective to help activists communicate during the G20, creating a decentralized version of Twitter. Journalists from around the world, including CNN, subscribed to the service and viewed the messages posted. Madison told Democracy Now: “We put on the—about different trainings. There was a Know Your Rights training. We talked about the—there were messages I received about the raid on the Just Seeds food bus. There was information about where meet-ups were for different marches, like the students’ march. To be honest, I didn’t see most of the messages, because I was arrested very early on Thursday.”

The message in question that apparently led to the arrest was an announcement that said that the police had issued an order to disperse. The police allege that the message was intended to hinder arrests and prosecution (by that logic, the police making the announcement to arrest would also be an example of hindering arrests and prosecution).

Madison’s home was raided, and police took, among other things, Curious George stuffed animals and a needlepoint made by his wife’s grandmother of Lenin.

To put this in context, police have used sonic weapons during the G20 protests, they have beat and tear-gassed protesters and students and random people, they demanded that crowds of non-protesting passersby disperse or be attacked. These are many of the same tactics used during the DNC and RNC protests. [In this political context I, as a journalist, would sure as hell love to know where the police are, if nothing else so I don't get beaten.]

Of course, the government is spinning the Twitter usage as a demon tool of anarchist organizers to incite violence. [Just as books are a demon tool of anarchists to, well, educate themselves]. We see this time and again at these mass protests–police beat random people in the streets while simultaneously trying to pick off certain individuals as “leaders.” During the RNC protests, organizers were arrested, demonized as “anarchists,” and hit with terrorism charges for spearheading local organizing with a wide-ranging coalition.

I ran across this article from last year, sent by a reader, about a U.S. Army intelligence report warning that terrorists may be using Twitter. An excerpt from the report:

“Twitter has also become a social activism tool for socialists, human rights groups, communists, vegetarians, anarchists, religious communities, atheists, political enthusiasts, hacktivists and others to communicate with each other and to send messages to broader audiences,” the report said.

It goes on to say, “Extremist and terrorist use of Twitter could evolve over time to reflect tactics that are already evolving in use by hacktivists and activists…”

It would be laughable if it weren’t so prescient.

As Madison told Democracy Now:

“We’re not—we’re not the first. We’re the first in this country. During the Twitter revolution going on in Iran, in Moldova, in Guatemala, in the earlier newscast about Honduras, in all those cases, repressive governments have arrested folks for using Twitter. The only difference is, in all those cases the State Department, the US State Department, has condemned the arrest of these Twitter activists and had gone so far in the Iranian situation, the State Department, according to an article, asked Twitter to postpone its regular maintenance so as not to interfere with Iranian protesters to be able to send out their tweets. So the only difference is we’re the first arrested here.”

I’ve been wary of Twitter, but I’m slowly growing to love it. Sign up to follow me on Twitter and try it out. Because if the government is concerned about activists using Twitter… well, I think that’s reason enough to give it a shot.
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