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Liking a band means agreeing with their beliefs?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by trevor9849, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Cry me a river. Your thread was deleted because sexist bullshit is unwelcomed here, dumbass. So keep moaning and making false assumptions and personnal insults, i don't give a fuck, you don't have any better arguments anyway. You just prove how pathetic you are.

    It does makes a differences. It is those facts that determinate the notoriety of a band... The more people that listen to it, the more the band is popular and easy to find on internet.. So you indirectly contribute to spread the word about this band, and some of the people will end up buying the albums, going to shows, or even converting to the ideas of the bands...


    exactly
     
  2. Caps

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    I don't think strangling women with microphone leads because you're too much of a fucking coward to attack a guy in the crowd keeps you in the catergory of joke. I don't think affiliating with white power musicians puts you in the category of joke. Seth Putnam can not really be defended in my eyes.
     
  3. DZA

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    Hmm I guess you're right. I don't listen to any nazi bands as far as I'm aware. It's just these bands like Rammstein and Crotchduster that have some pretty sexist stuff but I don't think they're serious about it, just doing it for the sake of being controversial... would you say it's still important to fight against bands like that?
     
  4. JackNegativity

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    Seth Putnam is rumored to be affiliated in some way with Vaginal Jesus, a White Power grindcore band. VJ is without a doubt THE most racist/anti-semitic band I've ever heard. They've always kept their line-up secret (the few live shows they have done the members wore hoods over their faces) so it will have to stay "rumor" that Seth Putnam was in VJ. Either way, AxCx has covered Vaginal Jesus songs (Jesus Was Nothing But A Fucking Jew, Mandatory Abortions for Ni**ers, etc.) live on multiple occasions and can eat shit.

    The coolest thing Seth Putnam ever did was overdose. Too bad he didn't die from it or his wheelchair didn't roll in front of a train.
     
  5. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    This. I love that video someone posted on here several months ago where the members of Dropdead attack Seth Putnam/Anal Cunt...and I wanna write a song in an Anal Cunt sounding style, but with lyrics bashing Seth Putnam and calling him out on his shit (maybe some references to violence against him too?)
     
  6. punkmar77

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6uFXiIDJ38[/video]

    ;)
     
  7. JimboRepulse

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    I no its a bit late on in the thread to pipe in and that, but there is a big difference between skrewdriver and anal cunt...
    A few years ago i met an original band member from skrewdriver (or the guys brother or whatever, i was drunk) and he was still pissed off because before they went racist they were a punk band, but a couple of the band members werent racist so left, but even though the band made nazi music, they kept the same name... Now if your listening to original skrewdriver like 'anti social' which is a good song, i'm still a bit like 'i cant do it, its made by them fuckers' but its understandable to listen to it. I like GG Allin to an extent, but he was just playing a character, one fucked up guy but he was being the rock n roll bad guy, it was offensive on purpose. Sid Vicious had a swastica tshirt, but wasnt by any means a nazi, same thing, he was being offensive on purpose... Listening to that shit doesnt make you homophobic or sexist or a mysognist. Listening to songs called 'Nigger, Nigger' or 'White Power' and such is more than suspect, its fucking bullshit! You think a nazi will go 'I know, i'll listen to some Poison Girls, i love to hear a jewish immigrant lady insult racist macho twats like me, doesnt mean i agree'.
    If that point was already made, then sorry, i read some comments but there was too many to read them all :p
     
  8. JackNegativity

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    No, there isn't.

    Which is exactly why there's no real difference between skrewdriver and Anal Cunt. Hence why I said:


    What's the difference between a nazi and a nazi sypathiser?

    Nothing.
     
  9. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    And apparently Seth Putnam has been seen slapping his wife before shows a few times...yeah, he really should have died when he OD'd.
     
  10. ungovernable

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    It's important to critize it, but i wouldn't say that it makes you contradictory to be anti-sexist and listen to "sexist" bands. Some bands are very serious even if they are sometimes sexist.... Conflict has a song called "berkshire cunt", loikaemie have sexist lyrics, etc... but those bands are still definatly worth it and i'm not going to boycott them.

    It is very different from a nazi band. What is worse: sexism or nazism ? The question is easy to answer.... Especially if the band will not use the money to fund nazi activities. I doubt there is a sexist band that will use their money to fund sexist activities. And if this is the case, then yes i'd say boycott it.

    Not an excuse. Still dumb as fuck. Remind me those "chaos punk" provocative assholes who think it's funny to make nazi salutes in antifa shows just to piss off anti-fascists
     
  11. JesusCrust

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    Haha that was me. They got fucked up. Goes to show don't expect people to be mellow if your spouting bigoted bullshit, even if they're "anarchist pussies" or whatever Seth called Dropdead fans.
     
  12. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Agreed, trying to use swastikas "ironically" or whatever is just the stupidest thing to do. And "chaos punx" are just the worst type of Punk in general...

    Like I always say, I'm a pacifist...but don't push me :ecouteurs:
     
  13. snookams

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    hehe
     
  14. JimboRepulse

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    I've not really ever listened to much anal cunt to be honest so I cant really be the best judge of them, but what i have heard was just so over the top its a joke, and with a name like anal cunt its what you gotta expect. i find the macho bands that are casually sexist and xenophobic more offesive because they are not going out of their way to shout the worst shit you can imagine, its just second nature to talk about treating women like shit and taking the piss out anyone who isn't white and english... Does that make sense?
    Anal Cunt is so over the top its a fucking joke, and i wouldnt take anything like that seriously... but, as i said, i've not heard enough to stick to that oppinion, i'm making an assumption on what i have heard and read, and just going by a band name anal cunt...
     
  15. trevor9849

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2hbxr05qI[/video] SOD interviw, explaing the subject of their songs.
     
  16. disfuck

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    lol , i actually did write a real fast grindcore song lyric about those fucking nazis , and it mentions the dropdead inncodent , and its called anal cunt are afraid of us , like that song they made about extreme noise terror , they fucking suck , ill post the lyrics in a minuet if yall would like
     
  17. disfuck

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    ''anal cunt are afraid of us '' lyrics

    real fast grindcore lyrics , fuck anal cunt ,

    heres the lyrics
    SETH PUTNAM IS A FAT NAZI
    ENT IS FUCKIN BETTER AND SO ARE WE
    ANAL CUNT CONSISTS OF THE FACIST 4
    THEIR MUSIC IS A DISGRACE TO ALL GRINDCORE
    DROP DEAD KICKED YOUR ASS ON STAGE
    STUPID HICKS GET BLOWN AWAY BY A 12 GAUGE

    ITS REAL SIMPLE AND FUN BUT HAS A DECENT MESSAGE SO I HOPE YALL LIKE IT AND I CANT WAIT TO ACTUALLY START UP OUR NEW BAND IN BOSTON AND PLAY IT FOR PEOPLE !!!!!!
     
  18. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    DUDE I'd love to see those lyrics...I've got a rough lyrical draft for a song called "I Put Seth Putnam In A Coma" sitting around somewhere as well, and music to go with it haha
     
  19. some asian dude

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    Re: ''anal cunt are afraid of us '' lyrics

    Wait just a second, I think Anal Cunt is only a three piece.
     
  20. snookams

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    i love how in the video of dropdead kicking anal cunt's ass, the anal cunt members are all upset and confused as to why they are getting their asses kicked...they are the real "pussies" that they claim everyone else to be. i hope they all die soon.
     
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