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Johnny Rotten wearing a MAGA shirt

Diskussion i 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' startad av ungovernable, 29 september 2020.

  1. ungovernable

    ungovernable Autonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Active Member


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    A picture showing John Lydon, aka Johnny Rotten smoking a cigarette with a MAGA (Make America Great Again, Trump's slogan for the 2016 elections) t-shirt before a concert in New Orleans in 2018 came out again.

    The former frontman of the Sex Pistols, who has lived in Los Angeles since the early 80's, made several statements in favor of Trump: "What I dislike is the left-wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist and that’s completely not true." or "Watching him act fills me with happiness". Another sentence for Trump is regularly quoted, but it could be a support for Nigel Farage (extreme right in England) and the Brexit: "".The working class has spoken, and I am one of them, and I stand with them. So this is the result

    About his supposed leaning towards anarchism, said :
    "I have always thought that anarchy is mind games for the middle class. It’s a luxury. It can only be afforded in a democratic society, therefore kind of slightly fucking redundant. It also offers no answers", "Somebody's got to build roads and it certainly won't be the anarchists."
     
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    Unsurprising, coming from a butter salesman.
     
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    DISGRACEFUL FUCKING TRAITOR!!! Just like rancid, he has
    literally become his name! aint ashamed
     
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    That damn scum was never a punk and today only shows more clearly his stupidity and lack of brains.
     
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    Johnny Rotten is one of those individuals that just spouts off to purposely piss people off. I wouldn't put much stock in whatever he says.
     
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    This song didn't age well lol
     
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    "god save the queen" {vomi}

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    It's actually kinda impressive that the butter adverts aren't even close to being his most embarrassing attempt to stay relevant.
     
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  10. ungovernable

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    Wow, nice find. I'm confused too as the dude is still pretending he doesn't support the monarchy, but it's probably just some bullshit excuse for his contradictory positions

    Every time I'm like "wow he fell so low it can't get worse" but he still find a way to surprise us :'D
     
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    1977:
    "God save the queen
    She's not a human being"

    2022:
    "She deserves respect just like any other human being" :emoji_sob:
     
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    Well, he does and says what he wants, I guess we can't take that away from him. :) Too bad many of the things he says and wants nowadays are a bit shit. :\
     
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    The truth is that Punk today is not even punk at all.
     

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    I don't know about truth but of course it can seem a bit silly from an outsiders' perspective. But that's mostly based on not knowing better. I mean I could argue it's the societal shift towards the right and the new normal state of 'a little bit racist' that's giving off the illusion that the left are cowards and "twats". But that's only scratching the surface. I mean if we take a step back and look at it, the far right isn't giving the establishment the finger, it's giving the poor, the homeless, the refugees and the outcasts the finger. It's easy to be fucking shit up if you're not the one taking the hit afterwards. The less clever racists are merely running the errands of the power. They blame fellow victims of capitalism and the "solution" they want is going to create either more capitalism or pure fascism.

    And I believe he's not refering to punks, he's refering to the general left which also includes a lot of people falling for the right wing tricks.
     
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    Anarchy isn't about middle class mind games, it's about fighting the system and standing with the working class. No time for posers like Farage or Trump. Build roads? Nah, let's build a new world without fascism and the rich assholes. Keep punk alive, fight the power, and never give in to their bullshit. Resist, rebel, and never back down. Fight for freedom and equality in a world full of hate and oppression. Punk's not dead, it's just taking on new forms of resistance. Stay true to the cause and never compromise your beliefs.
     
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    he's a trumptard
     
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  17. Rune

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    Not really surprised, considering Sid Vicious had his swastika shirt. It's just a modern version.
     
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    Hm, I don't know about this. I wouldn't compare the two toe to toe since Sid was a 20 year old with nothing to lose that just wanted to provoke everyone in sight, and Lydon is a 68 years old man who's repeatedly expressed conservative opinions (such as no to gay adoption, celebrating the queen and literally voting for Trump).
     
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    I'm not so sure if he actually votes for Trump, and if he did at first, whether he would actually vote for him again. I can't find anything definitive about that. It would be very interesting to know. Not trying to defend him or anything (Not talking about what he said about the Queen or anything else, just talking about this subject) but do you think he may just be trying to provoke people again by wearing that MAGA shirt?
    Here's what I found where he talked about Trump:
    Punk Legend Johnny Rotten on Design, Abortion and Trump
     
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    Yeah the members of Sex Pistols were always dumb politically. But the difference between Sid and Rotten is that Rotten will actually stand up and defend his support of Trump, while Sid was just doing it to provoke and would have never defended Hitler. Both are still dumbasses though.
     
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