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Israel vs Palestine, An Endless War?

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by dee2211, Jul 9, 2014.

  1. dee2211

    dee2211Member Forum Member


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    Hi there.
    Please tell me how do you think bout Israel attacked to Palestine recently. Do you think this war will come to an end someday?
    Thanks.
     

  2. rashpeter

    rashpeterMember Forum Member


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    It has to end some day, and I hope sooner rather then later. Here's an article I was reading on it:

    Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza

    Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset Moshe Feiglin's comments come after one of his far-right Knesset colleagues Ayelet Shaked previously called for the mothers of Hamas members to be targeted.

    World Bulletin / News Desk

    Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, Moshe Feiglin, has called for the use of concentration camps for the “conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.”

    Sharing a plan for the destruction of Gaza in a letter addressed to Netanyahu on his Facebook page on August 1, Feiglin wrote “What is required now is that we internalize the fact that Oslo is finished, that this is our country – our country exclusively, including Gaza.”

    Feiglin's comments come after one of his far-right Knesset colleagues Ayelet Shaked previously called for the mothers of Hamas members to be targeted.

    In his letter, Feiglin urged Netanyahu to “turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians,” in reference to a Palestinian coastal city that was ethnically cleansed by in 1948 and incorporated into present-day Israel.

    He called for tent encampments where the Palestinian civilian population would be “concentrated” to be established along the Sinai border until relevant emigration destinations are determined, adding that the supply of electricity and water to the formerly populated areas will be disconnected while they are “shelled with maximum fire power” in order to destroy the civilian and military infrastructure of Hamas as well as its means of communication and of logistics.

    “Those who insist on staying, if they can be proven to have no affiliation with Hamas, will be required to publicly sign a declaration of loyalty to Israel, and receive a blue ID card similar to that of the Arabs of East Jerusalem,” he said.

    Feiglin, who in January blasted Netanyahu for allowing his son to date a non-Jew, or a 'Gentile', also caused uproar among Palestinians when he participated in a raid on the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Islam's third holiest site, in East Jerusalem in March.

    The death toll since Israel began pounding the Gaza Strip on July 7 has reached 1821, including at least 401 children, 238 women and 74 elders, the Palestinian Health Ministry said.

    At least 64 Israeli soldiers have also been killed in battles with Palestinian fighters and three civilians in rocket attacks.

    Source: http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/1418 ... ps-in-gaza
     
  3. RememberGlencoe

    RememberGlencoeExperienced Member Experienced member


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    You'd think groups like the Taliban and ISIL, who exploit legitimate anger towards Israel to further their own ends, would do something not disgusting for once and send the Gazans some aid, but they've got more important shit to do. There are mannequins without pantyhose on their heads in Tikrit!
     
  4. rashpeter

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    I think that would be a bad idea if you meant military aid, but I support humanitarian aid. Anyways, here's a reason why military aid is a bad idea, real news in real time:

    Iran ready to fully support Palestinian resistance: IRGC

    A senior Iranian military commander says Iran is ready to fully support the "growing" Palestinian resistance movement.

    “We are prepared to support the Palestinian resistance in various aspects. In defending Muslims, we recognize no distinction between Shias and Sunnis,” commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari said on Monday.

    He added that the Gaza conflict indicated that the power of Palestinian resistance is “endless and growing.”

    The IRGC commander further emphasized that the number of rockets launched into Israel and the Palestinian fighters' ability in confronting the Israeli ground invasion is proof to the Palestinian resistance’s growing power.

    He added that the events in the Gaza Strip and Iraq are the result of the joint US-Israeli policies.

    “The Zionist regime [of Israel] will collapse soon as a result of the unity among Shia and Sunni Muslims and we are ready for that day,” Jafari pointed out.

    Medical sources say at least 1,822 people, including 400 children, have been killed and over 9,400 injured since the Israeli regime began its offensive against the Gaza Strip on July 8.

    Palestinian resistance fighters are continuing their rocket attacks against Israeli cities in retaliation for the Tel Aviv regime’s relentless onslaught on the blockaded Gaza Strip.

    The Israeli military says 64 Israeli soldiers have been killed in the four-week conflict, but Palestinian resistance movement, Hamas, puts the fatalities at more than 150.

    Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/04 ... palestine/
     
  5. RememberGlencoe

    RememberGlencoeExperienced Member Experienced member


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    Obviously I don't want to see another terrorist hotbed. But quite frankly, Palestine isn't exactly enamored with the nations the brought this monster upon them in the first place. And ISIL would be more concerned with dominating Iraq than trying to blow up Times Square or something. The longer Israel gets to beat on Palestine, the more hate and anger the terrorist elements in the rest of the world have to exploit. In a way, Israel is the largest terrorist hotbed in history. If it weren't for the Israel situation, antiwestern sentiment would not be this strong. And the only thing these radical fundamentalists have going for them is how antiwestern they are. Shit like Sharia law wouldn't fly if people weren't furious. It's the same reason the Nazis came to power. Things would be better, not good, of course but still, if ISIL or Iran controlled the area. America would still be a viable scapegoat, but not nearly as powerful of one as Israel. I can't see anyone else even trying to liberate the place and tnat's a shame like no other.
     
  6. taufan99

    taufan99Member New Member


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    Sorry if I exactly sound out of topic, but who first came up with an idea that (Trigger Warning) "Palestinians are people who are capable of making Israel look like a bastard and themselves look like a bunch of suffering people"? (End of Trigger Warning)
     
  7. utfifas09

    utfifas09New Member New Member


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    Reports because you would like normally. Of course it can be genuine.
     
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