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Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by rebul420, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. rebul420

    rebul420New Member New Member




    Apr 9, 2011
    I would like to know all your view points on Iran.
    Let me start of by asking a few questions:

    What do you think of their leader?

    What do you think of the government?

    Do you think that US goes to war with Iran it might be a catalyst to start WW3?

    I can't say I really know much about Iran because i've never been there and I haven't done enough research. The reason why I am concerned though is because my father is Iranian and my mother is white she converted to islam and moved to Iran. She was there during the Islamic revolution, and she believes that the islamic government is much better than the previous monarchy. For the record I myself am not a muslim. The way I see it before the revolution the shah was just another puppet for the USA. They are really sticking it to the US, they have their own interest-free banking system. I think it is good that this country can stand out and be different from the US and the rest of the world in many ways. If they want to be an islamic state let them be. I'm not sure why the youth are rebelling, I guess they want Iran to be another USA. I believe these uprisings are the cause of CIA false flag operations. They go inside and skew the minds of those we are easily swayed causing these rebellions. It is evident the US has been fucking with Iran ever since it was established as a Islamic state. There has been many spies captured already and that is proof. There is no way in hell Iran well ever attacked US or Israel but they dont have the balls to call them out on their injustices. Although, the media will constantly mistranslate everything which is said. For example when president ahmadinejad said that Israel is an illegal state, the media blasted that story continously with their version of Isreal should be wiped off the earth. Anyways heres a few things to support my viewpoints:
    This website whatreallyhappened.com i've always considered it as a trusted source for my news. Take a look..


    Heres a few videos:


    All the world leaders know that 911 was an inside job he's the only one with the balls to say it.

  2. nike

    nikeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member




    Jun 19, 2011
    maybe it's a good idea if you try to watch this movie:
    a good torrent is to be found here:
    i don't know the graphic novel, but the film gave me some background idea about the reasons why so many iranians fled their land since 1979 - just like they did before 1979 while reza pahlevi still ruled the land for the u.s.
    Marjane Satrapi's intention was not to make a political movie, she just tells what she witnessed and felt while she and her family were living in iran, she's now living in france.

    why are the prisons in iran still full of political prisoners, why it's not possible to live there if you're no muslim?
    do you really think the iranian government hasn't any reason to be equally dishonest, corrupt and cruel as any other government in the world?
    9/11 wasn't an "insider job", don't believe what professional paranoids try to sell you. :ecouteurs:
  3. punkmar77

    punkmar77Administrator Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member




    Nov 13, 2009
     United States

    He also had the ´balls´ to say the Holocaust never happened...give me a fucking break.

    1. Fuck all leaders

    2. Fuck all governments

    3. Fuck all wars

    really simple isn't it?
  4. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member




    Jun 21, 2010
  5. Bentheanarchist

    BentheanarchistExperienced Member Experienced member




    Dec 10, 2010
    The Iranian governent now is even more oppressive and repressive than the Shah. It is a state ruled by dogmatic Islamic Theocrats.
  6. Pedram Tangsiri

    Pedram TangsiriNew Member New Member




    Nov 20, 2018
    Male, 27 years old
    isfahan, Iran United Kingdom
    Oh man I'm livin in Iran the Islamic revolution was made by UK just because The Communists was too many and they was winning after that they killed thousand of leftists , here we are living kind of religious dictatorship do You know we have force hijab and forced religion if you Say That you are atheist they would kill you (the government ) most of the people don't want Islamic state and Ahmadinejad just talk about Israel the government and "LEADER" are just another "Norht korea" or other dictatorships
    I'v never seen any anarcho punks here , how could this happen?
    punkmar77 likes this.
  7. Data

    DataExperienced Member Experienced member




    Mar 7, 2013
  8. The Hat

    The HatExperienced Member Experienced member




    First of all, I think you need to think back to the election of 2000 and remember ho the U.S. REALLY felt about George W. Bush prior to September 11th. People rightly believed he stole the election, and that Al Gore was the real winner, among other sentiments.

    I agree there are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there who would like to sell you some snake oil concerning the events that lead up to 9/11, but one should put their shoulder to the wheel and do some hard research on a number of issues, for instance who are, exactly the Bin Laden family, how did they achieve their wealth, and what, exactly was/is their relation with the U.S. Government. Also one should thoroughly research The Bush Family, and how they got to be in the position of power they wield today, not just George W. and not only his father, who, incidentally was the head of The Central Intelligence Agency under the Ford administration, but also Prescott Bush, who, as an American businessman actually did business with THE NAZIS during World War Two, which is a crime of high treason he was never arrested or tried for.

    And since I mentioned The C.I.A. one might want to bone up on the history of The C.I.A.

    Some recommended reading would be..........
    The C.I.A. And The Cult of Intelligence by Victor Marchetti-The sad news is this book is very much censored, although new editions are published regularly once certain information is declassified. This was written by a former C.I.A. agent who got sick and tired of what he saw, and decided to blow the whistle. This man was arrested, and almost tried for treason even before the book was published. This is long, but, in spite of and despite the redactions, quite informative.

    In Search of Enemies by John Stockwell-Another ex spook who got sick and tired of what he saw, and decided to write a book about it. While there are no redactions, The C.I.A. went after him as well. He talks about what he partook in in Viet Nam and Angola, and warns that The C.I.A. is always looking for a new scapegoat, and that once The Soviet Union became Russia, thus our "Friend" they would simply find another scapegoat to blame the world's problems on.

    Inside the Company C.I.A. Diary by Philip Agee-Another ex spook who got sick and tired of what they saw while in The C.I.A. and exposed their dirty tricks.

    Secrets by Angus Mackenzie-A government whistle blower who exposed the activities of The C.I.A. under The Reagan Administration. He died under mysterious circumstances after this book was published.

    The Pentagon Papers by Daniel Ellisberg-originally published in The New York Times in the early 1970s, and really putting a bee in the U.S. Government's bonnet, this book exposes, in great detail about how The U.S. involvement in the Viet Nam theater, and how The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a set up as an excuse to get involved

    What Uncle Sam REALLY Wants by Noam Chomsky-A brief explanation of what REAL U.S./Foreign policy was and still is after World War Two, and how the U.S. Government overthrew democratically elected officials in other countries simply because they wanted to determine their own future without The U.S. Government breathing down their necks. Very simple, but accurate, and informative and Noam Chomsky has been studying these types of policies and behaviors on behalf of the U.S. Government most of his life.

    The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Greg Palast-A very good expose about how the 2000 U.S. Presidential "Election" was actually STOLEN, and who was involved. (Think George H.W. Bush's name comes up? Or any of HIS cronies?)

    Confessions of An Economic Hit Man by John Perkins-This man was a high finance mover and shaker within the U.S. Government prior to his resigning his post just before the events of 9/11. He explains, in great detail his involvement in manipulating the world economy to bring about the overthrow of democratically elected governments, and in particular, how that economic manipulation was responsible for finding a former U.S. ally, Manuel Noriega a "War Criminal" leading to his arrest and railroading by his former "Friends", The U.S. Government. He could no longer stand to participate in such treachery, and explains how, since the formation of The C.I.A., and their hold on the world economy, among other things, inevitably lead up to the events of 9/11. He even holds himself more than partially responsible for bringing about these tragic events.

    The Politics of Heroine in Southeast Asia by Alfred McCoy-Explains how The C.I.A. helped bankroll the war in Viet Nam by setting up a dummy airline company to fly fallen U.S. soldiers back home, and how they used this airline, and the amount of heroine smuggled in the caskets of each soldier. This is a policy and activity to fund illegal wars started by the U.S. Government up to this moment of writing.

    Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and The C.I.A. in Central America by Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall-After reading the above mentioned book, one will have a basic understanding how the U.S. Government and The C.I.A. fund illegal wars when financial aid from Congress is cut off. Getting the U.S. population hooked on smack worked so well in the 1960s, now it was time to fund The Contras in Nicaragua, and do the whole thing over again, except this time it was cocaine. There was so much cocaine in the U.S. black market during Ronald Reagan's second term in office, that it got compounded and turned into a smokable form we all now as CRACK! This book goes into details on how this all started beginning with The U.S. negotiations with The Ayatohllah Kohmeini for the release of the 52 hostages in the U.S. Embassy held since 1979, the roll that Oliver North played, and even how and why Manuel Noriega was our "Friend" until George H.W. Bush got elected POTUS in 1988, and decided that Noriega was no longer of any use. (And don't forget what I said about George H.W. Bush being head of The C.I.A. under the Ford Administration)

    Out of Control by Leslie Cockburn-Another fine expose about how the illegal war in Nicaragua was funded by crack/cocaine sales, bankrolled by The C.I.A. and exactly who was involved, and who knew what.

    So, do you think the fact that there are millions of heroine/opioid addicts on the streets of the U.S. is just an accident or coincidence? Did we decide to go to war with Afghanistan and Iraq just for the sole purpose of stealing their oil? Do you think it's just a coincidence that these two countries have a well deserved reputation for growing opium?

    Which leads me to this conclusion: I'm NOT saying that September Eleventh, 2001 was an inside job. All I'm suggestion is that one follow the money, connect the dots, draw your own conclusions and EDUCATE YOURSELF! IT AINT ILLEGAL............. YET!
  9. The Hat

    The HatExperienced Member Experienced member




    I think certain things need to be kept in mind concerning Iran........

    1) Iran is a religious THEOCRACY, and their laws are basically the laws of The Quoran. The "President" is basically just a figurehead, but all the FINAL decisions concerning drafting laws, and implementing any and all policies are made by the IMAMS that dictate and interpret The Quoran as they see fit.

    2) Iran NEVER had ANY plans to build a nuclear missiles, nor does it have any plans at the moment to do so. One must keep in mind that it costs approximately THREE TRILLION DOLLARS (U.S.) to build JUST ONE MISSILE. IRAN DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY! In the last decade, Iran has been besieged by municipal natural disasters such as earthquakes, flash floods, and land slides. Most of the money in the Iranian treasure is going to rebuild infrastructures destroyed by these natural disasters as well as bringing whatever relief they can afford to the hardest hit areas.

    The U.S. Government is still smarting after the overthrow of The Shah in 1979, since now they have one less opium cultivator, and The Iranian Government has decided to keep all that oil for themselves.

    I fear we are, once again entering yet ANOTHER illegal war using the same lies and tactics that sent us over to Iraq (Fighting "Terrorism") and if you thought junkies were littering the streets of the U.S. YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!
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