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Indigenous Resistance in the Americas

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Warfiend, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77 Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    i remember the documentary of the background of the genua massacre (two people dead, hundreds of seriously wounded after the cop overkill amok run) - giving serious evidence of the background-machinations by italian rightwing elements of the secret service and the police authorities with dozends of interviews with people involved and lots of video footage about the cooperation between "the black bloc" and the cops on the street.
    i'm a bit surprised that the all-wise wikipedia don't mentions it in
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_G8_summit
    but i will look for it and post a link - because if some idiots use genua 2001 to promote themselves as the spearhead of the militant movement... i think it's the worst nightmare of a hype possible:
    fuck creepy old men playing wild!
     
  2. butcher

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    I don't think this is Zerzan trying to promote himself as the spearhead, rather it is the film directors doing it here.
     
  3. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77 Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    he had an interview with the german "weltwoche" in september 2000:
    http://www.hossli.com/articles/2000/09/ ... ang%C2%BB/
    it's too long to translate it, but he says multiple times things like:
    "get rid of it all, to destroy the whole shit"
    "Alles loszuwerden, die ganze Scheisse kaputt zu machen"

    he's always relating "destruction" with (his) "anarchism" - and i think after people like oliver sheppart gave him shits because of the "100 millions are enough, the rest will have to go"-misanthropy - i guess everybody can see what kind of an "anarchist" creep zerzan is.
    i give a shit about our image in the media too, but his desperate attempts to play the guru part are obvious and it's obvious too that we don't need some chaos-kids doing the thug part because some weirdo guru tells them so:
    and then came the guy with the mind-manipulating worms, and i fear we will ran out of silver foil...
     
  4. Inna Rut

    Inna Rut Active Member Forum Member


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    don't worry, i didn't assumed otherwise, just found no way to express it as brilliant as "riot porn", this one really made my day today, so i just mentioned my doubt about the message of the clip.
    following this creatures advice i learned a bit more about zerzans biography, "crackademic" seems to be another image he tries to achive, he never finished his studies, ran with the hippies and tried a career as a union leader, okay, maybe he learned a thing or two during his time - but yes, Sheppard gave him shits for misanthropy and his lack of realism, in rememberance of the bavarian forestry damage report i would say i'm convinced and agree with that.
    if zerzan is an anarchist, i'll take the veil and join a christian convent!
    sooo: the whole thing gets complicated and multilayered and will take lots of time to work it through - or are there any alternatives? i think we started with the natives, the ex-anthro-kauderwelsch lured me into selfreflection and i think i got the message of the cherry cream on the cake:
    beware of the illusion immanent to the perspective of your view (point), your expectations and your very own personal dreams/needs & don't fall for the creepy riot porn.

    how can i found out what to do to get things right, okay, it's my job to find out, suggestions apprechiated!
     
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