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Homophobia in the Punk Scene (Total Wreck)

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by Carcass, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Carcass

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    Total Wreck thinks it's super punk rock to drop homophobic slurs during their sets. Don't book shows for them and, if you go to a show where they're playing, be ready to call them out. The vocalist needs to find another way to deal with his insecurities than queer bashing. He'll only stop if people stand up to him.

    Punk and hardcore is supposed to be a family. We are supposed to be looking out for each other and taking care of each other. This is music for people who feel so alienated from the rest of society that they have nowhere else to go. If punk doesn't mean at least that to you, then what the hell are you doing here? The music's not even that good, guys. It's like the same five or six chords. Go to a fucking football game instead.

    tl;dr, I'm over entitled frat boys who camouflage themselves in tight pants and tattoos. If homophobic and racist language in the scene hurts you, know that you are not alone.
     

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  3. Shuei

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    Gay is the new punk.

    We had some problems with homophobic punks where i live - so, we tagged "Gay is the new punk" with big words on my heterosexual friends jacket, and tagged it multiple places.
     
  4. rude-boy

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    ahhh chill out. ouuu the singer says fag or what ever on stage. big deal. its not like he is going around beating people. im not gunna not go to a show cuz the singer makes fun of somthing. if some one yells out bitch do you hear a groupe of girls(or their dogs?) get all mad?

    enless he is out right calling people out and being hard core douch baggy then dont get so butt hurt about everything and chill out. people are alwase so sensative over these little things.
     
  5. Carcass

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    Don't tell me to chill out, rude-boy. I'm quite calm.

    I'm glad that you don't have to experience the gut-punch feeling of hearing a homophobic, racist or sexist slur. Seriously, it's awful and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But understand that not everybody has the luxury of shrugging these comments off. Understand that, for a lot of people, these words are incredibly hurtful whether or not you think it's reasonable for us to feel that way. I can guarantee that you know people who are with me on this, but they're probably too scared of being ridiculed as "hypersensitive" to tell you.

    So, whatever. I can't make you do anything. If you don't care about how we feel then, by all means, continue supporting Total Wreck's punk-as-fuck privilege to make queers and allies feel like shit.

    The vocalist kept calling people "faggots" on the mic. My friend and I told him to knock it off but he brushed us off and kept playing his set. Right before the last song he sarcastically mocked "people who want to make the hardcore scene a safe space for everyone." I confronted him afterwards where, again, he tried to brush me off. Dude looked to be about 20 and was not prepared to defend his behavior; he was just trying to act hard. Someone who lived in the house jumped in before I got a chance to say anything beyond "what was up with that homophobic bullshit?"
     
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  7. Carcass

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    Butcher, that's hilarious and I couldn't agree more. Anarchy is a fag! <3 <3 <3
     
  8. dwtcos

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    Thank you Carcass, thank you for speaking up about this. The Denver punk scene is infested with homophobic sexist and racist dialogue that only seems to bother me... I'm new to the scene though, I'm trying to make friends, and I don't want to be "that guy" who has to speak out. A few weeks ago a man was in the front row with his shirt off and a swastika tatooed on his left breast, Seig heiling (is that even a verb?) at the stage. No one did anything... I'm only fourteen, I have a vegan frame and I've never fought a Fay in my life... Everyone loved this guy and what the fuck was I supposed to do? It sickens me. I don't even like fucking punks..... I'm sick of songs at shows that detach a woman from a vagina and praise the vagina, I'm sick of lead singers yelling faggot into the crowd and I'm fucking sick of Nazi toleration..I thought we were bigger then this.. I guess not.
     
  9. Ivanovich

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    I get through 30 fags a day, init. Yeah, don't support shit bands.
     
  10. Anom

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    I have left a couple shows when the singer starts screaming out a bunch of shit about fucking bitches, last time was Mötley Crüe on Peace & Love festival, i can't just stand there and support that shit. There were other women there telling me it's just a part of their show, but so what if it is? I don't support that kind of a show. If they have nothing better than that to say, they could just shut up between the songs. Not that i'm a crüe fan, but since they were on the festival i thought i could just as well take a look. Instead i went back to the backstage area and had a beer.
     
  11. Vegetarian Barbarian

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    When will you guys realize that people are pieces of shit and that the content of "fucking bitches" and saying faggot are going to continue and will never end? I credit those of you who can avoid talking about such issues in the way you guys were describing them, but its not going to stop. Plus i know gay people who doent find the word faggot offensive and others i do, its just like EVERY OTHER ISSUE ABOUT EVERYTHING
     
  12. Shuei

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    I agree that Total Wrech sounds like assholes in your description here.

    But you have to be careful, sometimes it's a slip of the tongue. People entering this scene isn't walking trough a golden shower, clearing them of all they hear in the world outside. "Bitch" is a demeaning word for women, definitely, but i can confess, that it's a curse word i can pull off in an angry situation - against boys, girls, objects or anything. I usually correct my self and feel bad, but i understand that a slip of the tongue can happen.
     
  13. Anom

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    :lmao: Not laughing at you, only at the image in mind... :lmao:
     
  14. punkmar77

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    Buy a fuckin' clue, silly rude-boy
     
  15. Shuei

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    Anom:
    Admitted, that one sounded wrong :p But most punk places i've been to, the chances that people shower at all are small anyway, so it might be more accurate
     
  16. Anom

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    haha, true... but ewww! :S
     
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    I'm not going to boycott a band for saying "faggots". PC punx need a good slappin'. These words have often gone beyond their original meaning, as common in the English language, so dofn't leap to conclusions because someone says a word you don't like. I say "fag" often, and I'm certainly not a homophobe. People that are so easily offended by simple words deserve the insult.
     
  19. ungovernable

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    Wow, religious indoctrinated and also homophobe, you are definatly a cool guy.

    When you're doing a set on the stage you have a responsability, it's not the place where to say anything. I don,t give a fuck if they use the word "faggot" in their personnal life but when doing it in the front of hundreds of persons it's definatly not appropriated.
     
  20. pbastard

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    Too bad that being that stupid is not punishment enough! You'd think by now that would be a bad memory but I suppose there is opposition no matter what in all things. That never means let it go though...........
     
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