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Discussion in 'Entertainment and off-topic discussions' started by nclpw, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. XxInGrindWeCrustxX

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    Raised in SoCal and the diversity of the music that I was exposed to by my parents, I always had a respect for SOME hip-hop. I really enjoy rap with actual music behind it. Currently bumping this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtnEc_bJf5A
     
  2. nclpw

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    haha good ol tupac!
     
  3. XxInGrindWeCrustxX

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    Haha, yeah. I was telling my sister (who listens to a lot of 90's rap and modern hip-hop) that I don't like a lot of modern hip-hop because the "artists" are compete idiots. They sing about how they came from nothing and now they have everything (and instead of helping out children who were in their similar situation growing up) they brag about all the extravagant things they buy and all the weed they smoke. They just don't see how fucked up that is. That's why I like Tupac. He did brag a few times, but he was a real poet. In fact a lot of early rap I feel was poetic. They aren't just bragging.
     
  4. Spike one of many

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    Came across this post once again and damnit, now I've got to ask you. What the hell is NBO? the closest acronym match I came up with was "never be ordinary".
     
  5. Spike one of many

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    Dude, I couldn't agree with you more about them being complete idiots; slaves to their money. When I see the music videos of them riding around in their ridiculous limousines flashing cash and expensive bling, it makes me wanna puke :ecouteurs: and laugh at the same time.
     
  6. Sti

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    in some ways i think were all kinda alike. but still its lost i dont think its really the right way of going bout what they really want, like they are on some kind of trip cuz the whole bit is a mess. all i hear is rap and horrorcore around me all day. but the horrorcore side has different people from the rap side they dont listen to it the same because its not played the same way but i think that the callings of the two are pretty similar. i think that there are some moments of truth strewn throughout the both of them. but if you were to ask me id say you should experience it but be like sharp about who you really want to be, i dont think they should change but they should grow. i dont think that they should give in to the will of the world and work against themselves but they should use their feelings to find a different perspective on the way things are happening. i think that they are giving in to their frustrations and botching confusion and discontent with vicious emotions. unless they are just the type that wants to be the one whos got all their own badges of self approval or external approval- like granduer markers translating to actual mental granduer, lacking without excess embellished proof for some odd reason. maybe its a good thing? or maybe its just the other end of the spectrum, when the religious people are taught to live small and be the ones that have the rap people are taught to live big and be the ones that have not. and the alternative culture is taught to live small and make it big. all of them having gigantic flaws, all three resulting in eventual ignorance.
     
  7. nclpw

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    that was just a typo! haha. i meant "no".

    oh i think you`re giving people far too much credit, i don`t think we`re that complicated. I just think most of them don`t give a shit, or don`t know, or chose to believe that the whole "game" is controlled by the "illuminati". Ah I hate it when they start pulling that crap in their songs, its so lame.
     
  8. Spike one of many

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    :ecouteurs:

    @ Sti
    I've never really gotten much into rap but I know there are some really talented artists with genuinely inspiring poetry and it's a way out of their predicament. And yeah, we're all victims of the same oppressive system and we're all products of our conditioning, environment and circumstance. I'm not judging the kids who grow up in the ghetto listening to their music and who look up to them and wanna be like them, driving around in fancy cars, etc.
    But it's this eccessiveness of some (most?) of these artists which I find both amusing and disgusting, I don't know, do they do much to help the kids in their community or do they just keep perpetuating that idea that the only way to gain respect within your community and in this world is by having lots of money and shoving it in your face. To me it just reminds me of the person who wins the lottery and blows all his cash within a year, spending every penny on himself and pretending that he cares about the homeless.
    I'm not really in a position to comment on the lyrics.
     
  9. Disposablebeing

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    Im coming out with some hip-hop/rap that will for the most part be politically charged under the name Agnt B. Im not fucking around either, i have lyrics out the ass.

    Edit: I forgot to mention my brother produces beats for me.
     
  10. Spike one of many

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    I think I mighta mixed-up rap and hip-hop. Haha, yeah, I probably meant hip-hop. Anyway, whats the difference? it's all the same shit, innit? :ecouteurs:
     
  11. nclpw

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    Yeah, I`ve been asking myself the same. Seems like hip-hop is the culture/lifestyle(?) and rap is the music? I don`t know.

    And thats cool, you`ll have to keep us updated!
     
  12. Spike one of many

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    Yeah, Disposable. Politically-charged rap/hiphop is definitely welcome. I've heard some of that and I like it. Definitely cool to reach a wider audience. Fuck, there should be polit-charged reggae, pop, disco, jazz :p
     
  13. Agri

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    my favorite spanish hip hop band, and they are anarchists
    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrS8H4f1mdA[/video]
     
  14. Sti

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    I agree some of the rap is good.
     
  15. Bakica

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO5Cay6GUkM[/video]


    :thumbsup:
     
  16. Spike one of many

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    I just wanna add something to this statement I made. I used to have a gf who was brown and she had a brother living in Mannenberg, in the Cape Flats, whom she would go and visit regularly, so I got to know some of that community. Mannenberg is the homebase of the HL's (hard livings), the 2nd biggest street gang on the cape flats.
    Anyway, one day she introduced me to their former gang leader, Rashied Staggie (he had a twin brother who was co-leader, Rashaad, before he was shot and burned alive by members of PAGAD. And, talking to this guy, you'd never suspect that he was the leader of one of the most notorious gangs in Cape Town. They were both loved and respected in their community because they actually used their money to help the kids in their community. People could even go to him with personal money problems and he would help them out. I know that gangsters in the US have a different philosophy and music culture, but a lot of those hip hop gangster just seem like egocentric "posers".
    That said, I don't condone gangs in any way, a lot of people get killed because of "senseless" gang violence and there are always politics involved.
     
  17. Spike one of many

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    And before anyone jumps at my throat ;) , it must also be said that to keep ones community happy and on good terms is always advantages and a good strategy.
     
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