Just wanted to introduce myself. Hello I am Brian. Been listening to punk since about 1985 (wow...doesn't feel like that long ago). First things I heard were Frankenchrist and In God We Trust Inc by DK. Suicidal Tendencies first album and Damaged by Black Flag were shortly thereafter. Soon after that I got into UK punk and that led me to Anarcho Punk and Crust Punk. Being young as I was (11) when I first heard punk I didn't really catch on to the message behind the lyrics but I had found music that was as ugly and pissed off as I was. As I grew older I started to recieve the message the music had to offer and it has shaped who I am as an adult. I was extremely active in my local punk scene in the 90's. Played guitar in a few decent bands and a few shitty ones. Got to play shows with some of my favorite bands. But now that I am older and have more responsibilities I don't have the time to do much. Plus the punk scene where I live now is pretty bad with the exception of a few bands. Anyway so that's who and where I am. How are all of you?
welcome by the way could you help me sort out something, why does everyone who listens to punk eventually end up in crust punk? (it happened to me and to a lot of people i know at least)
It doesn't with everyone. Some of them end up listening to garage rock and crap like that once the novelty of rebellion wears off.
I wouldn't say that's true. After all, there'd be no people still making softer punk music if every body ended up listening to crust. There's a healthy and thriving I guess "chaos Punx" community in evey city, and thanks to bands like the casualties and nofx filling them with hate for hippies and crusties, most of them end up so disgustingly indoctrinated that they never even give peace or crust punk a chance. Their loss though I figured.
Shoulda seen that one coming. Ah, butcher. If only the members of ap realised (as I do) that all of the reactionary things you say are for real, and the rest is sarcasm.
Mr P only takes the flyest of the shawties with him to social engagements. And I am the flyest of the funky fly shawties.
yr fly gangsta rhymes are ruined by the use of the term 'social engagements', plus yr taller than me. Oh and revisiting a previous statement: when a hippie has ingested fists full of acid and then proceeds to tell you they're feeling shit cos of the 'bad spirits in the valley' you too may share my revo opinions GET SIX JOBS!
Hey Hey you two! You guys ain't gonna start that "God Save The Queen! We are proud Aussie Loyalists/Royalists!" nonsense again are you?? & Butch what the fuck is a Bogan?! Oh wait we call them Rednecks over here, & the English call them Chavs. Well I hate Rednecks(esp.Bonehead rednecks!) & I hate Chavs, so I guess I hate Bogans now too! But I don't like that site Butcher my man cuz the people that run it are self admitted hipsters. AND BOY DO I FUCKING HATE HIPSTERS! But I am kinda fond of the female of their species tho.
Actually the three things are sorta different. Rednecks are quite like bogans but there are subtle differences I can't be bothered elaborating on right now. Chavs, while belonging to a similar economic demographic to the former two, are quite culturally and socially distinct and quite unique in behaviours and motivations. In fact, in Australia a subculture exists that is fairly distinct from bogans and quite analogous to chavs; we call those "lads".
As the site's 'what is a bogan' text notes, things are nowadays confused by the new phenomena of the 'cashed up bogan'. Previously a term for people who, say, live in derek danger's suburb to describe people who live in my suburb; nowadays, 'the bogan' encompasses positions as divergent as, for example, yr trailer park trash to the cast of Jersey Shore. Then again, like most categories, these things are hard to define. For example, 'Things Bogans Like' provide a picture of a young man being beaten up by the police to illustrate a 'hippie skull being bashed'. Problem is, the young man in question is a member of Socialist Alternative, a trot rather than a hippie, and as we know, hippies go to the salt mines, trots up against the wall.
Interesting so the bogan is something of a Chimera it seems. & Butch the hippies would work the salt mines & the trots would get the customary blindfold & last cigarette, if they were lucky! & ok Derek D. "lads" are like chavs down there, down under. & funny thing I am listening to The Benka Boradovsky Bordello Band's song "Black Eyes" that is some nice New Zealand Gypsy punk man!
