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Germany Bans MDC/JTB Split 7"

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by punkmar77, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. punkmar77

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    Will one of our German comrades please translate and diffuse....thank you.

    From Wikipedia for the Millions of Dead Cops/John The Baker split 7":

    Millions of Dead Cops side
    1. "Lets Kill All the Cops"
    2. "It Can Happen"
    John the Baker side
    1. "Cops"
    2. "Ladder of Pigs"

    John the Baker is the guy arrested in Woodstock NY 1994 for the lyrical content of his songs. He proved the case against him unconstitutional in court and sued the town of Woodstock and their police dept. for 1 million dollars. The Baker then settled out of court for $20,000, and shut down the bakery, made a record and went on tour. This side of the split 7" with MDC Unplugged tells the story with a detailed description in the liner notes and with the songs. Ladder of Pigs is the song John was arrested for and Cops is the song he wrote after his arrest which tells the story of how the Woodstock police were having sex with underage girls. John the Baker with the assistance of a few town board members got a secret investigation against the Woodstock PD and got half the police force fired for sexual misconduct.
     

  2. vAsSiLy77

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    From the gurmun - Roughly translated (bureocrazy-speech :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: )

    Federal Office for the Investigation of Youth-Endangering Media

    reference/subject: mini-record "Millions Of Dead Cops" of the artist "John The Baker"
    accompanying the letter: a copy of the suggestion
    english information sheet
    Pz 812/10 (please quote this reference number in any correspondence)

    Ladies and gentlemen,

    Concerning the media shall be decided pursuant to § 23 sec. 1 JuschG (Simplified procedure).
    you are allowed to notify in writing within two weeks starting from the date of receipt of this notification/information, if, and what kind of objections you have against the treatment according to the simplified procedure.

    In other words, they want to ban this piece of arts and plan to make the decision with a small gremium, if you have any objections - and of course you have - you have to tell them in writing within two weeks starting the day you received their letter - it's important not to break the deadline, AND NEVER FORGET THE REFERENCE NUMBER!!!

    for further reading:
    § 23 JuschG - Simplified procedure
    (1) The Review Board may resort to a simplified procedure to pass a unanimous resolution to the effect that a medium may potentially jeopardise the moral development of Children or Adolescents and their education to become a responsible personality in society, such simplified procedure being related to a reduced number of decision-makers, i.e. the Chairperson plus two members, one of them being a representative of one of the groups according to § 19, Sub-Clause 2, Nos. 1-4. The fully staffed Review Board shall take a final decision if a unanimous resolution cannot be achieved (§ 19, Sub-Clause 5).

    § 19 JuschG - Composition of the Review Board
    (1) Serving on the Federal Review Board for Publications Harmful to Young Persons are one chairperson appointed by the Federal Ministry for Family, Senior Citizens, Women and Youth, one official appointed by each of the State governments as well as additional officials appointed by the above Federal Ministry. At least one deputy shall be appointed to the chairperson and to each of the officials. State governments may confer to a supreme state authority their right of appointment according to Sub-Clause 1.
    (2) Officials appointed by the above Federal Ministry shall represent the following facets of society:
    1. Creative and performing arts
    2. Literature
    3. Book trade and publishing
    4. Suppliers of data media and telemedia
    5. Non-government bodies of youth welfare
    6. Bodies of public youth welfare
    7. School teaching
    8. Christian churches as well as Jewish and other religious communities holding the status of a public-law corporation.
    Book traders, publishers and suppliers of data media and telemedia thus work together with institutions involved in comparable activities for evaluation and distribution of media notwithstanding their modes of recording and reproduction.
    (3) Chairperson and officials shall be appointed for an office term of three years. Those failing to comply with their duty of full cooperation with the Review Board may be recalled by the appointing authority before the end of their full office term.
    (4) The members of the Review Board shall not be bound to instructions.
    (5) Twelve members of the Review Board shall constitute a quorum which shall include the chairperson, three State-appointed officials and one official each of the groups listed in Sub-Clause 2 (1-8). In case of absence of appointed members, a quorum may be constituted by at least nine members which, in turn, should include at least two members representing the groups 1-4, Sub-Clause 2
    (6) Any decision on listing shall be taken by a two-third majority of members present at the given meeting. In case of absence of appointed members, such decision shall require not less than seven votes (Sub-Clause 5, Phrase 2
    ).

    http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/bpjm/in ... glish.html - GENERAL INFORMATION

    http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/bpjm/re ... b=true.pdf

    http://bmfsfj.de/RedaktionBMFSFJ/Abteil ... b=true.pdf JuschG in English
     
  3. punkmar77

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    Thank You Gobbledigooks I will send this page to Dave Dictor and John!
     
  4. vAsSiLy77

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    Don't mention, I would do everything for my favorite baker... and maybe I will come up with a contact to another favorite of mine, quite a specialist for dancing with the bundesprüfstelle - by the way: it's already officially forbidden to use the term for a band name!
     
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    Any news in this weird story?
     
  6. punkmar77

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    No, just 'Thank You's' from John and MDC, they actually used your translation to proceed with legal matters....I'll post it here if anything else comes up..
     
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