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Feminism, porn and sex workers : not a contradiction. A new documentary

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by ungovernable, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    This is dedicated to the feminazis and everyone else on this forum who said i should feel ashamed for watching porn, for the feminazis who are against porn and who think porn is contradictory with feminism, and also for the persons who said i am sexist.
    Today in France was released a new documentary made by anarcho-feminism. The documentary totally supports porn and sex workers and it clearly states that masturbating or watching porn isn't wrong.

    I always said that the women's right to make porn is a right that was aquired through activism, so this is definatly part of feminism. Here's another proof.


    (sorry, translated with google)

    In the documentary Too Much Pussy. Feminist Sluts, X A Queer Show, screened at the cinema in Paris Wednesday, June 2, seven girls open both their legs and their heart. Yes, it can be porn star, stripper or prostitute with a true discourse on the liberation activist.

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    Billed as a "road movie pleasurable," the documentary by Emilie Jouvet (Too Much Pussy) follows the trail of seven young artists met on a European tour time epic.

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    Among them: the French performer Wendy Delorme (writer, neo-burlesque stripper, teacher), a porn-star Judy Minx, American Madison Young (sexual educator, feminist actress X), dancer and "kamikaze queen Mad Kate The artist and prostitute Sadie Lune ("pleasure activist »)... This "gang bang" of body-artists in heat travels the roads in a van decorated to the windshield of tampax. Crossing the cosmopolitan scenes of Parisian night clubs, squats in Berlin and Stockholm and Copenhagen theater, they spend their time to undress in favor of a militant speech: "Sex is everywhere," said Wendy Delorme, there is much talk sex and at the same time we live in a society which remains sexophobia. In France, only 18% of women masturbate (or so they claim, which in itself is bad enough, Ed). Why not others? They feel ashamed? They think it's wrong? To me, that being a feminist. This stop feeling guilty about what we are, having the desires that you have and enjoy as one enjoys.

    In the troop, Wendy Delorme is among the most expansive. When she does not remove her long gloves slowly to Gilda, throwing a shower of glitter on his audience howling, she removes her clothes in the street and show her breasts or explain to little girls who are surprised to see him wearing a mustache ("Madam, you are a cat or a mouse?"): "You know, there are people who are born daughter, but do not want to be girls. Then they can choose to be what they want. They can become a cat-girl or girl-boy. "This is the BA-ba of pro-sex feminist discourse. "Let's get another thing for which the company has scheduled", say the girls of Queer-X show. They repeat it in every possible way, playing with masculine and feminine codes, to lose their Latin to lesbians themselves. "There were these girls who do not even look at me," says Judy Minx. They thought I was straight, because I look like a normal girl. When they saw me out with my girlfriend, they began to open their eyes: "Oh you saw, too, she is a lesbian." Connes What! ".
    A cons-date on some bitches rearguard condemning femininity (ie that are mini-skirts and lipstick), girls of Queer-x-show follow the footsteps of pro-sex feminists: why burn bra? They mold our forms so so sexy! Playing on the double meaning of the word "bitch" (female of the word "boy"), Wendy Delorme added Barbie-style bitch. She dresses in a dress knots and proclaims in his latest book, Uprising! "At your birth, the doctors said" It Girl "and you fell so agree with this sentence that you have to add steadily since. You're in love and sentenced to the rank of lower and ungodly. The mother, the saint and the whore, you embody them all and you carry their cross, you'd willingly crucified also for all that you spend on the body. You collaborate and subverted you, you will reproduce and you rot from the inside world that made you, you're a line in the beam that feeds you, you are your own bonfire, you will burn in hell all because you're the angel of those with them their devil and the devil of those who burned their bras. "

    For Wendy and her friends, it is therefore possible to be feminist wanking, by dressing and playing too short blondes. There is even means to be lesbian with dildos shaped or phallic accessories SM. The notion of political correctness does not matter to these girls the new generation, raised to clear Annie Sprinkle, Candida Royalle, Carol Queen and Judith Butler ... They define themselves as sluts, for "whores" with joyful pride. And for good reason: they do not help the bitch not the people to liberate themselves from their a priori? In the 80s, Annie Sprinkle listed among 40 reasons to find whores admirable: "Whores are not afraid of sex. Whores heal. Whores help people explore their sexual desires. Whores stand up to intense prejudice. " Annie Sprinkle, a sex worker and actress hardcore (150 porn movies to his credit), author of the first manifesto porn feminist, showed her cervix using a speculum. Following his example, Sadie Lune request to all the public to scroll between his legs apart. Show astonishingly beautiful than the ring of flesh that adorns the bottom of the vaginal wall. Let those who have never seen a cervix provide themselves with a flashlight and go see it. It is called the cervix in English and Japanese call it "heart of the flower" (hana no shin), "abacus bead" (soroban no tama) or "navel of mule" (ina No HESO).

    It may seem free to show himself naked, naked into the depths of her vagina, to advance in the moral sense of tolerance. But this is not so free. "The weapons of the weaker sex are those that make you strong," said Wendy Delorme. No better weapons than the taste of pleasure, sexual desire, hunger, thirst and the desire to orgasm angry. "To all these people, who represent more than half of Earth's population, that in some parts of the world are incensed and elsewhere are mutilated, crushed and humiliated, my vagina is open," says Wendy, who loves to enjoy by being fisted. "I do not know if my vagina release a child but I know I've brought enough hands to deliver a new generation, the children free, boys with angelic faces and bright smile who are gifted for happiness, for whom sex is primarily a matter of friendship, healing of the birth and celebration of their identity. "

    Wednesday, June 2, Too Much Pussy Paris premiere will be screened in the cinema Archipelago, as part of an evening organized by Florence Fradelizi, ex-programmer film festival gay and lesbian community. "It's a way to keep an atmosphere of Paris-Girls Trans sexxxy and sassy, she says. It is also somewhat liberating space and "under-culture": not to promote sexual freedom at all costs but expressed a desire to leave the body without judgments and desires, boundaries, barriers moral, with boundaries that belong to us and according to codes that fall apart and reinvent themselves each time, with the single word in common: fun & respect! "The film will be screened twice (20h and 22h).

    PREMIERE OF FILM TOO MUCH PUSSY! (Emilie Jouvet)
    Wednesday, June 2, at 20h and 22h. - Cinema Archipelago: 17 bd de Strasbourg Paris 75010 Paris. Métro Strasbourg Saint-Denis. In the presence of the filmmaker and the film crew /


    FORTY REASONS Whores are my heroines By Annie M. Sprinkle

    1. Whores have the ability to share parts of their body most private and sensitive with complete strangers.

    2. Whores can go to places where nobody else goes.

    3. Whores face sexual mores.

    4. Whores are playful.

    5. Whores are hard ..

    6. Whores have careers based on giving pleasure.

    7. Whores are creative.

    8. Whores are adventurous and dare to live dangerously.

    9. Whores teach people how to be better lovers.

    10. Whores are of both sexes and of all cultures.

    11. Whores give excellent advice and help people solve their personal problems.

    12. Whores have fun.

    13. Whores wear exciting clothes.

    14. Whores have patience and tolerance for people that other people could not bear.

    15. Whores are the only people that are less.

    16. Whores are independent.

    17. Whores teach people to have healthy sexual relationships.

    18. Whores are a tradition.

    19. Whores are connected.

    20. Whores have a good sense of humor.

    21. Whores relieve millions of people from stress or tension involuntary.

    22. Whores heal.

    23. Whores take the lead to intense prejudice.

    24. Whores make money.

    25. Whores always work.

    26. Whores are sexy and erotic.

    27. Whores have special talents that others do not. Everyone does not have what it takes to be a whore.

    28. Whores are interesting people with lots of exciting life stories.

    29. Whores are often kiss.

    30. Whores help people explore their sexual desires.

    31. Whores explore their own sexual desires.

    32. Whores are not afraid of sex.

    33. Whores on the street.

    34. Whores sparkle.

    35. Whores are entertaining.

    36. Whores have the guts to wear very big wigs.

    37. Whores are not ashamed to be naked.

    38. Whores help the handicapped.

    39. Whores decide their schedule.

    40. Whores are rebelling against the absurd laws, patriarchal, and denying sex, raised against their profession and are fighting for the legal right to receive financial compensation recognizing the value of their work.
     

  2. ghoul

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    Penn and Teller have an episode of Bullshit that is about this as well. It focuses on how making prostitution illegal causes more harm then if it were to be legal.
     
  3. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    Yes it's the same story with hard drugs..
     
  4. Ivanovich

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    I've got 54321
    I've got a red pair of high-heels on
    Tumble me over, it doesn't take much
    Tumble me over, tumble me, push
    In my red high-heels I've no control
    The rituals of repression are so old
    You can do what you like, there'll be no reprisal
    I'm yours, yes I'm yours, it's
    my means of survival
    I've got 54321
    Come on my love, I know you're strong
    Push me hard, make me stagger
    The pain in my back just doesn't matter
    You force-hold me above the ground
    I can't get away, my feet are bound
    So I'm bound to say
    That I'm bound to stay
    Well today I look so good
    Just like I know I should
    My breasts to tempt inside my bra
    My face is painted like a movie star
    I've studied my flaws in your reflection
    And put them to rights with savage correction
    I've turned my statuesque perfection
    And shone it over in your direction
    So come on darling, make me yours
    Trip me over, show me the floor
    Tease me, tease me, make me stay
    In my red high-heels I can't get away
    I'm trussed and bound like an oven ready bird
    But I bleed without dying and I won't say a word
    Slice my flesh and I'll ride the scar
    Put me into gear like your lady car
    Drive me fast and crash me crazy
    I'll rise from the wreckage as fresh as a daisy
    These wounds leave furrows as they heal
    I've travelled them, they're red and real
    I know them well, they're part of me
    My birth, my sex, my history
    They grew with me, my closest friend
    My pain's my own, my pain's my end
    Clip my wings so you know where I am
    I can't get lost while you're my man
    Tame me so I know your call
    I've stabbed my heels so I am tall
    I've bound my twisted falling fall
    Beautiful mute against the wall
    Beautifully mutilated as I fall
    Use me, don't lose me
    I've got 54321
    I've got a red pair of high-heels on
    Strap my ankles, break my heels
    Make me kneel, make me feel
    Turn, turn, turn, like a clockwork doll
    Put in your key and give me a whirl
    Tease me, tease me, the reason to play
    In my red high-heels I can't get away
    I'll be your bonsai, your beautiful bonsai
    Your black-eyed bonsai, erotically rotting
    Will my tiny feet fit your desire?
    Warped and tied I walk on fire
    Burn me out, twist my wrists
    I promise not to shout, beat me with your fists
    Squeeze me, squeeze me, make me feel
    In my red high-heels I'm an easy kill
    Tease me, Tease me, make me see
    You're the only one, I need to be me
    Thankyou, will you take me?
    Thankyou, will you make me?
    Thankyou, will you break me?
    Use me, don't lose me
    Taste me, don't waste me
    Use, lose, taste, waste.
     
  5. Ivanovich

    IvanovichExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Oh, and in case you missed the point, no, I don't think promoting the idea that the major contribution women have for society is as objects of sexual gratification, and wrapping that up as some kind of freak show, is striking a major blow for freedom and equality.
     
  6. Mandi

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    so if porn is wrong for men to watch then its wrong for women to watch if we take things without gender hypocracy, and is just as exploitive of men as women. It might not be as well recognized but there are whores on all sides of gender lines and though I wouldnt chose that lifestyle, I cant see anything wrong with people who do. ITs their choice and they arent hurting anyone and arguing than porn is sexist is bullshit. Theres a difference between respecting peoples importance as humans and limiting their individual expressions... but thats just my opinion...
     
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    I agree with Mandi. I don't really care who does or doesn't advocate porn for whatever reasons they have. However, I do think that porn is contradictory to the idea of sex being a means of intimacy shared with a partner or partners. But, an additional "however" being that I doubt the porn-goer is looking for anything more than instant gratification.
     
  8. raindeer667

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    who profits with porn?
    and self pleasing is always happening, in secret.
    sex-workers are workers.
    and the term feminazi as nomenclature to share is BS.
    i just got a flick the other day as a gift and it was interesting but realife is so much better.
     
  9. QueerPunk

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    Proud Whore right here!


    Oh and I am not a woman...oooh b-b-but I'm oppressed as a whore right? All workers are oppressed in some way at least as a sex-worker I controlled my own means of production, or so to speak.
     
  10. Anxiety69

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    this isn't a post lyrics thread, and if you are going to post them you should at least site who they are by and why you bothered posting them.
     
  11. ghoul

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    My internet porn and I have a very deep and spiritual relationship.
     
  12. Ivanovich

    IvanovichExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Crass. It relevant.
     
  13. butcher

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    And hetro sex-workers control their means of reproduction!!!!1!! haha jokes!!
    sorry.

    All waged work sucks and is exploitative, assertions that working in an office is somehow better than being whore is little more than religious moralism masquerading as feminism.
     
  14. russaddams

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    My apologies Ghoul. And by the way...is beastiality porn considered exploitation? The animal is getting off too right? What is PETA's official stance on that?
     
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    Fuck PETA....bestiality is just plain wrong and to my knowledge illegal.

    As far as I am concerned any porn or fetish is fine as long as it does not involve underage or animals.
     
  16. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Admin Team Experienced member


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    <sarcasm> <typical feminazi bullshit>
    oh no it's not the same thing, women are oppressed by evil men, they have the right to watch porn but men doesnt have the right to, women are just using the same weapon used against them, blah blah blah
    </typical feminazi bullshit> </sarcasm>
     
  17. easy e

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    whores looking for a good excuse to be whores.

    "the pornographic images that help portray
    women as legitimate sexual prey."
     
  18. QueerPunk

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    Do you seriously have an issue with Sex Workers who choose to go into this line of work?
     
  19. helenfordsdale

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    dude, mass media helps portray women as weak, sexual prey. for the most part porn is fairly empowering to women, they're doing it by choice and they obviously enjoy it. I say for the most part because there is some porn that is very abusive to women (and men), but such things will happen.

    being a whore is a choice, and personal liberty is the most valuable thing any of us has, so stfu?
     
  20. squatpunk

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    is this docu online somewhere ????
     
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