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Death Penalty

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by sludgefuck, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. sludgefuck

    sludgefuckExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    what do anarchists think about the death penalty?
     

  2. Carlos

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    I personally don't support it, who the fuck am I to decide who lives or who dies?
    As an anarchist i don't think i should have authority over the life of someone!
     
  3. Anxiety69

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    im all for killing nazis and fascists.
     
  4. Carlos

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    yeah i guess, but when do we draw the line?
     
  5. snookams

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    murder is murder. hope that explains alot.
     
  6. ungovernable

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    Do you seriously think an anarchist would agree with death penalty?
     
  7. persona-non-grata

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    nah killing is too good for those fuck they need to suffer long and painfully so that death will be a relief for them :ecouteurs:

    but yeah definitely against!!!!
    :ecouteurs:
     
  8. JesusCrust

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    Well, I'm sure I don't stand alone while saying I agree. But I don't agree with state sanctioned murder. Obvi I won't shed a tear for nazi's who are on the death penalty, but as everyone else is saying, where is the line drawn? For one, state murder is one thing, it shows absolute political power and control, but even if it's not state sactioned, what makes murder just? We're all against the state because of the fact they have the power to kill people, with little to no consequences.
    I understand we're fighting a battle here, but if killing those that don't agree with you is the way to go, I'd just be a socialist.


    And for the record, this is different about the thread of killing nazi's. The reach I'm going for here is more about "punishment" rather than sympathy in the heat of battle.

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    As far as my bottom statement. This doesn't imply to "freedom" of speech either. I have no room for nazi's bullshit, but as far as actual death penalty goes, abolish it, now. That may be one of our comrades on the other end of the rope.
     
  9. punkmar77

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    Anarchism is against the the State and definitely against the prison system so draw your own conclusions....
     
  10. sludgefuck

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    I agree the line between murder and killing is a thin one. What if someone couldn't be rehabilitated and you knew for a fact they are an immediate danger to those around them?
     
  11. Anxiety69

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    believe it or not there is already a thread on this, search the threads for one called prison, or something...
     
  12. punkmar77

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    Send them to Australia! No, but there has to be a better way than killing them or imprisoning them in inhumane conditions... a self-sustainable island commune of rapists and murderers, could be a viable option.
     
  13. Jameson

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    Than they should be banished.
    The only slightly justifiable way to murder someone would be if you didn't immediatly do so they would murder someone else. (self defence)
     
  14. Anxiety69

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    sure banish nazis together.. them being in a group won't make them a bigger threat...
     
  15. sludgefuck

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    banished to where? If you put a bunch of murderers and rapists on an island what do you think is gonna happen...
     
  16. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    This. Shit, even a system supporting democrat probably won't support the death penalty, why would someone who wants the state abolished?
     
  17. punkmar77

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    In time they will turn into Leprosy... \m/
    Incidentally, where do you stand on all of this sludge?
     
  18. Anarcho Union

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    I know my personal that my anarchist principles do not allow for such penaltys. I am a pascifist anarchist, and our beliefs call murder and violence a tool of the State,thus the death penatly is both moraly and politicaly wrong. Especialy in our current system of justice, where many cases have revealed innocent people killed by the state.
     
  19. Jameson

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    I think you'll end up with an island covered in raped corpses and one really scary guy standing on the pile
     
  20. sludgefuck

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    I'm not totally sure which is why I wanted to ask and see if someone could sway me. I mean if you think about it morally no one should really have a say in whether another human being lives or not, but on the other hand sometimes people just need to go. If there was a revolution I'd kill for my cause and when it comes to certain crimes I don't see what's much different. There are some things that cause crime that can't be rehabilitated or helped. What is the intended goal of putting someone away for good, like banishment? You're still imposing your will upon another person's life and putting them in a more painful situation.
     
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