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crust punk docs?

Discussion in 'Documentaries & Movies' started by contra soldado, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. contra soldado

    contra soldadoMember New Member


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    I can't seem to find anything online. The closest thing I found to a documentary about crust bands or the crust scene was something on youtube about trainhoppers and that had pretty much nothing to do with the music at all. I guess it's possible that one hasn't been made yet or just isn't online but yeah, let me know if anyone has links or anything...
     

  2. Bones Booking

    Bones BookingExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    The only one i've seen which is really not even a documentary about "Crust" is an interview with Amebix, it's someone interviewing them and them talking about the whole movement and where and how it originated etc. YouTube it \m/
     
  3. sludgefuck

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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke2iW0Q8GFU[/video]

    unfortunately I think they got rid of the rest of this doc, it used to be on youtube. oh well
     
  4. Bananaman

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    I saw the movie above a few years ago, and didn't like it one bit, It may be true that I'm on the other side of the world but that film isn't about what I would personally consider punk or whatever...
     
  5. sludgefuck

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    the movie isn't about what is supposed to be considered punk dude. It's just stating the facts that there's a fuckton of kids that live like this and it's an accurate representation of how much the gutterpunk lifestyle is romanticized. Besides punk is too broad of an idea to be confined to what a person thinks. Punk is REACTION not a set of ideals
     
  6. Bananaman

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    As I said I'm on the other side of the world, and never really saw a crew like that, besides the look part... And sure there is a lot of romanticizing about various lifestyles but that is true for a lot of other subcultures as well as the mainstream. What the thread starter was asking was a legitimate question weather there is a documentary on crust, and I personally can say that I never heard of any. But, that is beside the point...

    The point is really dislike the above movie, the way it is sometimes shown at punk gatherings and how people can confuse what I consider important with what they saw in that film...
     
  7. sludgefuck

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    So that's not a legitimate documentary because it doesn't subscribe to what your idea of punk is even though you have never been involved with a scene that is one of two central figures of the movement? You make a strong case alright...
     
  8. Carlos

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    all of the stuff in that film was filmed around socal, and all the sets of the bands were filmed in the showcase theater in corona!
    i saw so many bands play there it was the greatest thing about living here, but then it got shut down because of the damn city!
     
  9. Bananaman

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    Did I ever say it wasn't a legitimate documentary? And what scene is "one of two central figures of the movement"? Please explain because after 10+ years and meeting people from most places in the world I'm still not sure... And if punk is such a broad term how can you objectively and precisely determine what is the central figure of the movement? You know punk can mean different things in different part of the world, and trust me there are no gutterpunks where I come from nor does one have the luxury to go be a bum for a while because it's fun fun fun like people in that documentary... There is only 24 hours in a day and we only get so many breaths before the last one, there are far better documentaries out there yet some still waste time on that one...
     
  10. sludgefuck

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    I can't believe I have to spell this out for you and you can say something back if you want but we shouldn't be getting in the way of this thread

    you're discrediting the film = implication of it not being legitimate. The OP wanted legit documentaries not your opinion so if you're criticizing it obviously you have some problem with it.

    Look you even said it in your post :lmao:

    Punk started in the US and UK. What you said didn't make any sense.

    again this makes no sense. Like I said it started in the US and UK. Not saying the other scenes are inferior in any way.

    The rest of what you said was irrelevant
     
  11. deadrock98

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    why dont you just go out and make a documentary about the crust scene. get a camera and get a hold of some local crust bands and interview them. if there are some out of town bands coming anywhere near you than shoot them and email and ask them for an interview when they get near you.
     
  12. SurgeryXdisaster

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    :thumbsup:
     
  13. Veganarchy

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    The only thing I can think of that could be a bit relevant is "The Day the Country Died", but it's more about the early peace/anarcho punk movement. The idea of making a new documentary is fucking great! I'm sure you can find people in here, who are willing to put some energy into that project.
     
  14. contra soldado

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    I've made a few short docs before on local issues and stuff, but am pretty busy with my own life now so don't hold your breath for a crust doc made by me anytime soon. The interview with Amebix, though not a documentary is naturally amazing like everything Amebix touches. I've seen Decline pt. 3 and it was interesting but not really from a crust punk perspective. I found it pretty funny when bananaman said that stuff about people where he lives not having the "luxury" of going and being bums for a while. I guess he missed the part of the film where most of the characters said they thought they would be dead in a few years and the part where a few of them actually die on the streets. I'm not American but I've been in that country many times and it is one of the harder places in the industrial world to be poor. No one does shit for you if you are homeless in America and your life expectancy drops vastly as sick fucks crawl out of the cracks to prey on you. From a political perspective though I can see what he's saying about Decline being kinda disappointing. They may say shit about cops and the world being fucked up but people that young and that drunk are naturally self-absorbed and don't really have much interesting to say about anything other then themselves. I'll definitely watch 'The Day the Country Died', I guess I can probably find it on this site. Thanks for the tips guys, maybe if I'm not broke or busy in 6 months I'll conscript some of you for a sick ass documentary about crust punk. That would be lots of fun.
     
  15. coponfiredub

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    there is an amebix-documentary done by roy wallace, the guy who did the "The day the country died-dvd", and used to sing in excellent bands like toxic waste and bleeding rectum.
    however, what makes a documentary aboput crustpunk any different from a documentary about nihilist punks or discharge, or...there's dreadlocks, drinking and whining about war and teh apocalypse, that's it i guess. i like some crust, but it's a genre with even more patches then posers around.
     
  16. contra soldado

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    Meh, probably true. I honestly don't hang out with punks in general so when punks complain about other punks or posers in their scene, I don't really have any way of relating. Nothing intentional, just the people I met and stayed friends with didn't happen to consider themselves punks or members of a subculture. The reason I wanted to find a documentary on crust punk was that I've watched just about every doc out there on every other genre and subgenre I could think of and I've never seen one on crust.
     
  17. sludgefuck

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    If you ask me I don't see any reason someone should make any more punk documentaries. Everything you could possibly say about it has been said, and could easily be summed up in any one documentary. These things are really only interesting to outsiders who see it as this really cool yet bizzare subculture.

    In my opinion most punks, as people in general, are not interesting and are not worth being discussed at ANY length. The only thing interesting about them is the costumes that they wear. Take away their tastes in music and spikey hair and patched vests and what are you left with? Some obnoxious spoiled kid who so desperately craves the world's sympathy and talks a big talk about changing the world, but the only change he's interested in is the one that's going get him fucked up that night. SOME punks are cool and really do make a difference, but that's true for anything and most of the people who are actually changing the world have nothing to do with punk. Like I said it's mostly just a costume. So it was then so it is now so it shall always be....
     
  18. ryan1980

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    Go on Youtube.com and look up Wedding Train. Two doped up crust kids hop trains to WA to get married. Filmed late 90s i think. Its not pretty, either.
     
  19. badboyberty

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    I haven't seen the whole thing but "Noise and Resistance" is about the European political DIY punk scene and I think the sort of thing the OP is asking about, features Dirt and a bunch of other 'crusty' anarcho-punk and political hardcore bands.

    [video]http://vimeo.com/21515642[/video]

    http://www.noise-resistance.de

    I think there is a bit of cultural / language confusion that happens whenever 'crust' is used online, for some of us it refers to metal influenced hardcore with environmental and left wing political themes, for others it's dogs on ropes and dumpster diving.


    Yeah, I've never used this forum before... hi.
     
  20. butcher

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    Hi badboy, which part of this arse-backward great southern land are you from?
     
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