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Counter-Marxism, Stalinism etc... Help

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Lunadimae, May 18, 2010.

  1. Lunadimae

    LunadimaeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Hello, I've currently seen a lot of Stalinists/Hoxhaists, Marxists-Leninists, Trotskyists, and the various pro-USSR/authoritarian communists, but I have very little knowledge of them in order to successfully start debating with them. Could anyone direct me to any helpful articles/free e-books concerning this?

    Thanks.
     

  2. Rathryn

    RathrynExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I would suggest simply searching on Isohunt for e-books on those various groups, there's a wealth on info on there regarding virtually anything. I'll have a look-see on my external HDD in a few mins to see if there's anything I can send you that might be of help :)

    EDIT: hmm... disappointing, nothing there.
     
  3. bgrass

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    Aggressive violence is disgusting behavior. The state functions solely on violence. State enforcing any economic system is doing so by using violence against those who have not initiated violence in an effort to control and own. So state support/enforced capitalism and state supported/enforced socialism are on the same plane of violent and disgusting behavior. So let them know they're actions in supporting state socialism is morally the same as those that supported government support/protections for unethical business actions, government support of business at the expense of others, the state hunting down commies and police beat downs on unions. It is the state that poisons this world and every act on its part to assert ownership over others should be opposed.
     
  4. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Read bakunin text on marxism and dictatorship of the proletariat

    Also read about the first international where the anarchists were opposed against authoritarian communists

    The russian anarchist voline also wrote a very big and complete book about the russian revolution, called "the unknown revolution". Another very good writting by him is "the red fascism"

    Also read about the china revolution, it's very funny how they failed everything they tryed to achieve, Mao was such a fucking idiot

    Anyway, authoritarian communists is about IMPOSING BY FORCE a revolution, and if you have to use authoritarism this is because the revolutionnaries are a minority and their opponents are a majority. No point in doing a revolution if it's made by a minority, we need the support of a majority or else it is as bad as the dictatorship and fascism.

    As for marxism, the worst part is the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

    Leninism and URSS is as bad as fascism. Fascism had the gas chambers, URSS had the gulags. The russian revolution did as many deaths as fascism. URSS killed the opponents of the system, sent them to work camp, destroyed all opposition, deported the anarchists, provoked massive famines, etc...

    Trotskysm is also fucking shit. After using the anarchists from nestor makhno's makhnovtchina to fight against common ennemies, they killed them like the traitors that they are. The did the same with the anarchists from Kronsdadt. Kronsdadt sailors were the heart of the red army elite troops, they did the revolution with the bolcheviks... until they realized the revolution was turning into dictatorship... so they wanted decentralization of the power but the communists refused and trotsky ordered the repression on the kronsdadt camp... they killed them all.

    Red fascism (aka authoritarian communism) is our ennemy just like fascism is. Same fight, same struggle.

    There is too much to say, i could write hours and hours... If you have specific questions i can answer, but explaining why authoritarian communism is bad is too long and too complex....
     
  5. Lunadimae

    LunadimaeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I see thanks for the responses they're quite informative and helpful, going to start searching and reading some of the books posted on here.

    Anyway, check this guy out:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/JackB733
     
  6. makhno

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