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Boycott The Casualties

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by ungovernable, Nov 9, 2013.

  1. Sickentooth

    SickentoothMember Forum Member


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    The CASUALTIES earned it as did GBH. :ecouteurs: :lmao: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :beers: :a: :beer: :beer: :beer: \m/
     
  2. Spike one of many

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    What did GBH earn? (Besides the pseudonym Great Big Haircuts) Is there something nobody's telling me? Lol
     
  3. Sickentooth

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    Respect without being a recycled punk band with the ability to to tour after 2 decades in the game of life!

    And they still rock and make decent [email protected]#%^^ :ecouteurs:
     
  4. Spike one of many

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    I was just confused why you put GBH in the same bag as the Casualties. Meaning GBH haven't earned themselves a bad rep as far as I know. (At least it SEEMED like you were putting them in the same bag ;) )
     
  5. UnityFreedomAnarchy

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    I'm now ashamed to say I like the Casualties, not them as people but I've always enjoyed their sound (let's face it, GBH copyists is not the most damning accusation ever) and that will never change , after all they were the band that encouraged me to become a dyed in the wool (well, Mohican but you get my drift) Punk, which helped introduce me to anarchism, making me realise all my 'weird' ideas about society were logical and I wasn't alone in them. But I don't think they'll ever receive a penny or a recommendation to a friend from me. Fuck Jorge and fuck rape culture.

    Also, 'hairdressers'? Really? :lmao:
     
  6. Sickentooth

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    I like being a hairdresser it smells better than what most have going on in there lives! :poop:

    I make most dorks confused!
    I'm PUNK literaly!
     
  7. punkmar77

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    Hey don't bother with that bullshit, getting personal with other forum members will be considered trolling... which will just get you kicked out of here.
     
  8. Havran

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    I still have that feeling that this guy is just a troll anyways...
     
  9. Boots4Stompin

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    Not trying to be a rape supporter or some shit, but you guys are following some media report pretty heavily :p
     
  10. punkmar77

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    What exactly makes you think we rely on what some media says? This isn't the first time that guy does this it's been happening for many many years...
     
  11. Boots4Stompin

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    Just the fact that this has became viral because of media reporters. idk im not trying to seem like im defending the guy
     
  12. IronBENGA

    IronBENGAActive Member Forum Member


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    Ungovernable what do you mean? What happened with The Exploited?
     
  13. Boots4Stompin

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    They're like fencesitters and have a few pics with nazis. Search the forum for a topic on it.
     
  14. Mike AD

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    Media reporters?

    This information came to light, and subsequently became viral because a victim made a blog post which was picked up by a number of other blogs and websites.
     
  15. Boots4Stompin

    Boots4StompinActive Member Forum Member


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    Seems resonable.
     
  16. Sick Boy 77

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    OK. So apparently a lot of people here believe a lot of what they read is true. I'm not saying that this is false but at the same time I need to see the evidence before jumping to a conclusion. Just like my views on religion. I wont be believe it until I see it. We can't go through life relying on words alone. If that was the case then this world would be more fucked up than it is already. This article also seems very well written. Too well written. Someone must have really put there time an effort into making it believable. And who is to say that the person who wrote the article really doesn't like the Casualties because of the same reasons that are given in the comments to this post: They are nothing more than fashion punks doing it for the money. Fashion punks? Really? They might have a few clothes that they wear for photo shoots but at the shows the clothes they wear smell like :poop: and the patches are starting to fall off their vests and jackest. If they had so much money then their clothes would look somewhat nice and the soles on their boots wouldn't be so worn thin that you could use them to ice skate. If the Casualties have SOOO much money then why are Jorge's teeth so fucked up? You would think he would have the money to get them fixed.

    Take a stick of dynamite. OK, now take another one and place it next to that one, and continue this until you have 16+ years worth of dynamite next to each other with all their fuses connected. Now light a match and watch what happens. All the sudden it blows up and you have this continuous line of stories blown out of proportion of this person did this and that person did that, and yet there is no evidence to back up what that person is claiming what happened. Sounds like the whole Bush and Iraq's nuclear weapon debate. Iraq had nuclear weapons but they were never found. Jorge sexually assaulted this girl yet a rape test wasn't conducted nor was it reported. I know that a high number of rapes aren't reported for fear of ones safety but Jorge is 5'8" and has little to no muscle. What is there to fear from him?

    The Casualties are nice guys. I was talking to Rick during the Negative Approach set while he was stood in the crowd. Awesome guy. We talked about bass playing and how he would be doing what he is doing now when he turns 50. That came up because the lead singer and bass player for N.A. are in their 50's, and he pointed that out to me. He said that is all he knows. He can't do anything else but play bass for a career/job. At least they try to connect with their fans. Some bands are pissy snobs and ignore you when you try and talk to them.

    All around you can say what you want about the Casualties. They do it for the fashion or money. Their music sucks or whatever. But in the end they have been doing it for a long ass time and will continue to do it unless one of them dies or something "tragic" happens. I don't know. Hell some of you might, dare I say, be jealous of them. LOL. They have fans all across the globe and a reputation to back up their underground fame in the punk rock world and to the above ground world on a very small scale.

    Sorry for being rational, but I think about things. I'm a free thinker, if you will. Alright now lets see what some of you have to say about what I just said. I can't wait to see the back lash for this post. Shit. Did that sound like trolling? I fucking hope not. :|
     
  17. punkmar77

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    So let me get this straight, the reason I shouldn't believe the literally dozens of stories told to me over the last 10 years about his completely inappropriate behavior are

    a. He's only 5' 8"
    b. I'm jealous of his success
    c. I never actually witnessed him raping someone
    d. I'm not a forensic gynecologist
    e. All of these women that have come forward are probably liars
    f. Their bass player is really cool
    g. I shouldn't be jealous of their success because they really aren't successful enough to have proper dentistry
    h. They are nice guys
    i. Their clothes are really crusty not like their photo shoots
    j. They have been doing it for a long time
    k. The woman who came out with her story was actually a professional ghost writer intent on bringing down the band for the good of the world

    for someone that self identifies as a "rational" "free" thinker you really leave a lot to be desired... :ecouteurs:
     
  18. Kobac

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    What if Steve Ignorant comes on stage and says:Look you disappointed mother fuckers, Crass did not SELL OUT!!!You hear me!?
    We did not sold our beliefs and ourselves!!!Would you still BELIEVE him!?
     
  19. Sick Boy 77

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    ADD mixed with a traumatic brain injury and lack of sleep can rely fuck up what you are trying to say. I hate it.

    1. I was trying to defend a band I liked the music of. You (meaning people in general) shouldn't really hate all the members of the band. Hate the music, but the reputation of one shouldn't taint the reputation of three others. Rick, Jake and Megers are nice guys. Call them what you want but it doesn't matter.

    3. I don't know if the stories are true or false, but why haven't any of the assaults been reported? Call all cops bastards, but if you want to see someone pay for their crimes then do something about it. Anything. Don't just sit there feeling sorry for yourself, and writing a story about it isn't really getting anything accomplished. Sure you might get some people to believe your story, but on the grand scale of things what have you accomplished?

    4. When I was talking about Jorge's height all I was just trying to point out that there is nothing to be afraid of if you do report him. You shouldn't be afraid to do it anyway. Fear is something rapist feed upon.They know you are too afraid to report them. Dismiss the fear and you will have nothing to worry about.... Hopefully.

    5. Ghostwriters? No, I wasn't trying to say they are ghostwriters. Well, I guess some maybe. I wouldn't call them professional though. Their stories are good but not "Writer of the year" good. I guess one story
    from a writer, being the first one, and it might be true, got someone else to write a story and that one being false. Hence the dynamite affect. Do you get what I am trying to say? I have known people who hate someone or something so much that they really try to get others to hate that person or thing too. Writing a story about a person raping them is a little over the top I admit but still. I've known people to do more over the top things to spread their hate.
     
  20. punkmar77

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    I'm sorry but it doesn't matter how nice the 3 other members are, if this happened to me and I was in a band whose member was behaving as badly as Jorge has over the span of the band and I knew it, I would immediately leave the band, but because they are as successful as they are they won't leave, they are complicit in allowing that person to continue his behavior. My housemate had her hand kissed by him when she was 13, granted that isn't rape or sexual assault, but it was a come on, and according to her he was more than willing to take it further if she had reciprocated...that's more than inappropriate don't you think? By the way she is also a member of this forum...
     
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