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Black flag: Anti Racist?

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Probe, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. Probe

    ProbeExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I as just wondering if Black Flag was anti-racist...
    i know their stuffs in here so they probably are but i just cant imagine Henry Rollins or anyone in it being anti racist...
    they all seem like assholes....know what im sayin?
     

  2. ASA

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    decline of western civilisation 4 u, your from aussie, you're racist
     
  3. Shuei

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    Well, "White Minority" makes fun of racist people as far as i know. Laughs at the idea that white people should be a minority and all their fears that that would be the end of the world.

    Why shouldn't they be able to be anti-racist? Many bands are aggressive and such, but that's not because they hate all or wish people to be hurt or discriminated.

    And if they are anti-racist - GREAT!
     
  4. Anxiety69

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    i don't think black flag is anarcho in any way shape or form, in fact they were pretty sexist. (slip it in)
     
  5. Vegetarian Barbarian

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    iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii waaaaaaaaaaaassssss sssooooooooooo WWWWWAAAASSTTTEEED, IWASWASTED
     
  6. Rathryn

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    You should watch some of his spoken word gigs then 0.o
     
  7. persona-non-grata

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    dude they had a female bass player o_O
     
  8. ungovernable

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    Black Flag were definatly against racism, but that doesn't makes them big anti racist activists

    being sexist is not being anti-women lol
     
  9. statuliber

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    They are not anarcho-punk... yeah... but I wouldn't claim that slip it in is sexist... It is about sex, alright, but that doesnt mean it is sexist...
    Actually I quite like the song (which is of course no prove that it is not sexist)

    From what I know I'm at least sure that they are NOT racist...
     
  10. dwtcos

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    Yeah, in his spoken words he's said some pretty clearly anti-racist things.
     
  11. Anxiety69

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    rollins also talks shit on nazi's in his book Get In the Van.
     
  12. ASA

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    punk as folk, rollins has his heart in the right place
     
  13. New Face In Hell

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    They're not racist in any way, shape, or form. They've had latino and black members at some point or another.

    I don't understand why people can easily see "Six Pack" and "TV Party" as parody songs, then accuse them of being sexist because of "Slip It In" and "Loose Nut". I guess if those tracks were fast punk songs people wouldn't even blink, but because they're "heavy metal", it's obviously sexism!
     
  14. ASA

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    pickin at straws, the question has been asked and the answer is NO huha
     
  15. upzpunx!

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    i am sorry but your wrong as fuck my mom saw them before i was born and henry refused to play unless the skin heads stoped beating up the gay guys and the black people who were there
     
  16. ASA

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    oh i see the confusion, anti-racist: upzpunx sez yes, racist: NO
     
  17. Anxiety69

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    maybe it's all in the interpretation, but to me it is a sexist song, and some of their album artwork was sexist also (jealous again comes to mind.) There's a thin line between parody and offensive i guess. i'm not trying to say people shouldn't listen to them or anything, just that their message may be mixed.

    Also greg ginn owned sst, and they put out the descendent's Milo goes to college which has one of the most blatant homophobic songs of that era 'I'm Not A Loser.' Or i suppose that's parody to so it's ok to use lyrics like "you fucking homo, you suck, mr. buttfuck you don't belong here, no way you fucking gay, i'm not a loser." Hardly open minded in mye ears...
     
  18. QueerPunk

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    "Slip it in" is a good track to fuck to...well my boyfriend seems to think so but it can be a bit much sometimes when you really are not in the right headspace to listen to it.
     
  19. Probe

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    dude....im black....well brown....
    but still....aussies arent really that racist just some
     
  20. New Face In Hell

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    I think the main reason SST signed them was because they were an up-and-coming SoCal band, and that was the label's main specialty at the time, California punk/hardcore (although they would later on branch out to other areas, like the Midwest, where they signed Husker Du, a band with two gay members).
     
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