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Are We Trumped Up?

Diskussion i 'General political debates' startad av crassclown, 13 januari 2025.

  1. crassclown

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    Well, it's almost time.
    Trump is ready to turn America into a tub full of Chaos.
    What do you think we all should do?
     

  2. Spike one of many

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    Not just America.
     
  3. ArmTheMasses99

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    Fight back, protest to survive, be violent when necessary and help each other above all else.
     
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    Find a genie lamp,
    Wish for all the politicians and bourgs to die
     
  5. nick007

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    Completely agree.
    I'm gonna sound like a pessimist here & say the luckiest are the ones successful enough to move the hell out of this police state country.
     
  6. Charger Bullet

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    How many here even bothered to vote? People have no idea the ramifications this will have for the future of this country. Even if Trump would croak the following day, the damage is already done. It's a Pandora's box of sorts where there is no undo. Having a criminal con man be selected for the most powerful position in the world just opens the door for future evil-doers to seek power openly and brazenly by whatever means they please. The facade of the past is no more. We used to label other presidents as racists and fascists and creeps and crooks but this time it is no longer rhetoric.

    You have billionaires owning select media, foreign adversary governments, corrupt politicians and judiciaries in state and local levels, along with street-level supporters who were willing to go to prison fighting to get their leader in power. And they succeeded. The worst part is the media, the fourth estate of democracy, just rolled over and capitulated. Cheated or not, they now know the playbook to grab power - or worse, they never cede power. This will have dire consequences. We were already on a trajectory to becoming similar to a "third world country" now it just hastens the process.

    I tried to tell people. They said it was just voting for a lesser evil. They said both sides are all the same. They said voting doesn't matter. If voting didn't matter, then why do they try so hard to take away your vote?
     
  7. Starfighter

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    The financial crisis in 2008 which had the banks pressing trillions of dollars over the years since, paired with the pandemic that made the cloud capital skyrocket (the new fuel of the system isn't profit - it's rent) caused the inflation that's currently hitting very hard on people already living on the margins. Rich people invested early on in properties that are now making them even more wealthy (to the point where it's absolutely undefendable), all while workers worldwide are left without any hope for the future. This is what gives politics like Trump's a rise in popularity and it's not limited to the US.

    I'm not sure what we ought to do about it yet, but I recently recieved two books on the topic that might help me find... something? A direction, at least.
     
  8. pedrodalion

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    FUCK TRUMP!
     
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  9. nick007

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    Rioters were granted pardons for trying to keep Trump in power when he lost reelection. Some would argue that Trump set a legal precedent for legalizing coups & there is an expression that turnabout is fair play. Perhaps it's time to take a page from Trump's playbook...
     
  10. EstrogenDominance

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    1. Start by staying informed, practice heavy media literacy
    2. Pivot your internet usage to the "fediverse" and other decentralized services
    3. Unfuck yourself; deal with your shit, get your head as right as you can, let go of whatever dependencies you can like drinking and social media, fine tune your brain so that you can anticipate and make the best use of opportunities; learn your heart well so that it doesn't lead you astray, learn it well so you can tune in to the world and move when you need to move
    4. Reconnect with everyone you've fallen out with after making sure they're not part of, it but be careful
    5. Mutual aid is a real thing and can become an alternative infrastructure wherever you are
    6. Don't forget that people who share your values aren't always punks, some of them are tired old fucks like myself
    7. Time to start working out and eating healthy
    8. Time to learn a skill or skills for conflict; this isn't just fighting but also: communication, organization, medical care, vehicle repair, cryptography, information security, logistics, engineering, and so on
    9. Learn the layout of the place you live; who lives where and if they are dangerous, learn the exits in and out of your town in case of martial law or similar lockdowns, learn how to navigate it efficiently and what you can make use of
    10. Learn to be bland and uninteresting, learn to blend in because it's a survival skill now
    Want another ten?
     
  11. Spike one of many

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    You make a lot of good points but I don't believe we should become bland and uninteresting - I'm not from America but I think for the most part keep being who you are; keep being yourself. Don't let the bastard dictator turn America into a North Korea! (sorry to North Koreans - no offense intended)
     
  12. Starfighter

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    I'm not from America either, but I can absolutely see how blending in can be a survival skill at this point. There are rights being actively taken away from all sorts of groups so visually signalling you're part of them might have direct repercussions. I also very much read it as not sticking out visually, and in situations where unwanted attention could be devastating.
     
  13. Spike one of many

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    I mean obviously it makes sense in certain situations and activities not to draw attention to yourself.
    And like you said, some groups are particularly vulnerable now under the Trump regime and of course if you're feeling threatened then you should probably try to mitigate that where possible. That probably also depends on where you live in the US (or anywhere else in the world for that matter), what events you're going to, etc. I guess that's something everyone has to decide for themselves.
     
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  14. crassclown

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    Thanks, everyone, for your replies. Keep being vocal.

    Since the time that I posted my thread, our Repugnant Fearless Leader has placed tariffs on our major Trading Partners, fired key
    Inspector Generals, ended treatment processes for Transgenders, had that other nitwit Elon Musk invade our privacies, suspended
    key officials who maintained National Security, and made Air Traffic Safety a disaster area (Three major crashes have occurred in
    our Skies in the last week alone).

    America is becoming a laughingstock; a dump becoming trashier and trashier because of an egregious imbecile who doesn't
    give a rat's bum about its people, Democracy, Justice or Liberty.

    And the sickest thing about all this raunchy rubbish is that the People voted for this cancerous cretin. They chose to pick the
    Greatest of The Lesser of Two Evils. And that idiotic action has signed this nation's Death Warrant.

    It really makes me sick. And I hate being sick. HOW DO WE GET OUTTA THIS MESS???
     
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  15. Rune

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    He's also started deporting immigrants to what he calls housing in Gitmo, aka a frigging concentration camp.
     
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    Is Gitmo short for Guantánamo Bay?
     
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    If you want to use the system in place then I think grassroots activism is what's needed. Focus on your own community, support local leaders (I know, I know, but again: we are to use the tools available in this example) and initiatives that promote progressive policies. Start (or join) campaigns that protect civil rights and social justice.

    It seems, however, that times like these are the best opportunities to get people on board on the revolution train. From what I have come to understand, the politics in the US are a lot more right leaning in general than I'm used to. Perhaps it's a lost cause to try to patch things together with small steps.
     
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  18. Rune

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    Yeah.
     
  19. crassclown

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    Yeah. It's a US Navy base that once held "terrorists".
     
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  20. crassclown

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    Yeah. What next?
     
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